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I got this little sweetie from a local Petco. I know it is a Patternless Albino but unsure of strain. Does anyone have any idea which it could be? I have tremper albinos and will be breeding it next year to see if it is a tremper patternless but was wondering if maybe someone has had one and can tell from the pic. Thanks

Rainwater patternless albino.

Thank you. So does that mean if I breed it with a tremper albino I will get normal looking babies het for rainwater albino,tremper albino and patternless.

It LOOKS like a Rainwater strain............nobody can say for 100% certain. This is true for all strains, we can just make good guesses, not infallible diagnosis. Breeding is the only sure-fire way to tell what strain it is.

But U do agree, it looks like a Rainwater Patternless .

When Bred to a Tremper Patternless, you should get all patternless offspring 100% double het for both Tremper and Rainwater.
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1.0.0 Lampropeltis getula holbrooki
0.1.0 Lampropeltis getula californae
0.0.1 Lampropeltis getula nigra
1.0.0 Lampropeltis mexicana thayeri
2.3.0 Eublapharis macularius macularius
0.0.2 Rhacodactylus ciliatus
0.1.0 Gerrhosaurus major major

I'm breeding it to a regular tremper albino not a tremper patternless albino.

Oh, sorry about that.

Yes, a pairing of

Tremper X Rainwater Patternless

will yield "normal" offspring 100% triple het for Tremper, Rainwater, and Patternless
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1.0.0 Lampropeltis getula holbrooki
0.1.0 Lampropeltis getula californae
0.0.1 Lampropeltis getula nigra
1.0.0 Lampropeltis mexicana thayeri
2.3.0 Eublapharis macularius macularius
0.0.2 Rhacodactylus ciliatus
0.1.0 Gerrhosaurus major major

Thats is cool any idea what i would get if i bred two of these babies to eachother. thank you for your help i appreciate it.

Two leos 100% triple het for Tremper, Rainwater, and Patternless could potentially yield normals, Rainwaters, Trempers, patternless(s), Tremper Patternless(s), or Rainwater Patternless(s).

If there is a morph that expresses both Rainwater albino and Tremper albino at the same time, you could produce that too........but it would be impossible to verify or even visually differentiate from a single-strained albino. If that double-strained albino morph is possible, you could even get a patternless double-strained albino.............but again, it would only appear to be a single strained albino patternless visually.

You could also produce any of the above morphs het for other traits, but nobody will know for sure until they are bred to uncover their genetics.
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1.0.0 Lampropeltis getula holbrooki
0.1.0 Lampropeltis getula californae
0.0.1 Lampropeltis getula nigra
1.0.0 Lampropeltis mexicana thayeri
2.3.0 Eublapharis macularius macularius
0.0.2 Rhacodactylus ciliatus
0.1.0 Gerrhosaurus major major