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did anyone ever figure out what kind of morph this is? Rec, dom, co dom, etc.....
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"Rec, dom, co dom, etc....."

None of thee above... it's make believe

Hey James....how are you.

I dont know if I would go so far as to call it make believe....
Perhaps it is not actually a trait that is inheritable.... Or, perhaps it is one that requires more work.
This is a question that will require more work BEFORE we write it off as nothing more than a freakishly interesting looking snake.

Part of the problem is that many people have differing opinions on what a Tiger Blood actually is.
Unfortunately, there are people who have hijacked the name "Tiger Blood" and applied it to ANY interesting looking snake....likely in hopes of getting more money for an interesting looking normal.
As we all know, normals can only prove out to be NORMAL. True Tiger Bloods may potentially prove to be more....or not?

Anyway, the original snakes that were FIRST labeled Tiger Bloods are VERY uncommon. They look as though they really could potentially be a project worth the work.

The most prudent advice to someone who is considering a purchase might be:
Ask LOTS of questions from the seller...then follow up the answers given by the seller with a little research...to confirm any validity of the sellers answers.
(before paying any $$$$)
Now you can make your decision based on the truthfulness of these answers.

Although the jury is certainly still out about the TRUE TIGER BLOODS....I think that they are certainly worthwhile as a dinking project.
The original Tiger Bloods were very incredible looking Sumatran Red Bloods (brongersmai). They had lots of white and black....with vibrant red....and a totally whacked out pattern.
As well, there was another identifying characteristic....ALL of the True Tiger Blood that I have seen had an interesting Cross shaped pattern on their heads.
Granted, I have seen a lot of normal bloods with SOMEWHAT similar looking cross patterns on their heads too....But the head pattern of the True Tigers Bloods looked more pronounced in my opinion.

Who knows, only time ( and a lot of breeding effort) will unravel the riddle.
Whatever the answers....it should be a fun riddle to solve.
Hope that helps to answer the original question.
Take care.

Your friend,
Harlin Wall - WALL TO WALL REPTILES!
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Whats up Harlin! Lurking on the forums I see. Hope all goes well.
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Hey Rich!

How are you?

Yes, I am guilty as charged.....lurking. lol.
I don't usually post too much.
Wish you and everyone else a great season.
Seems lots of people have eggs cooking at the moment.
It is always great to see babies poking their heads out of the eggs.
Take care.

Your friend,
Harlin Wall - WALL TO WALL REPTILES!
970-255-9255
970-245-7611

I see a lot of bloods called Tigers that are definitely not true ones in my opinion. The true original tigers were incredible and are truly rare as you stated, and I have not seen any of them in quite a while. I don't believe I still have any photos of nice ones, so please post if you happen to have any. Nice to see you are still around. Take care,

Kelly

Hey Kelly!

Nice to see you around too.
I lurk on the Burm forum once in a while....I see you there sometimes.
It has been a few years hasn't it. Always great to bump into an ol friend.
Seeing the post from you brought me a smile.
You should give me a ring sometime.
It will be nice to catch up.
Take care.

Your friend,
Harlin Wall - WALL TO WALL REPTILES!
970-245-7611
970-255-9255

I hope they turn out to be something. I just picked up the pair of "infamous" , unfortunatly, not "famous", adult Tiger het albinos from Big Country. The genetics have to be there, but the first breeding apparently wasn't what everyone hoped for. I also got several babies from the first mating. I'll post again in a couple of years and let you know if the F2's look like anything! Keep your fingers crossed for me!
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Steve Frist

frists@rcs.k12.tn.us

http://www.sgh.rcs.k12.tn.us/TEACHERS/frists/SGHwebpage_07/Reptiles.htm

In answer to your obvious question.

No, I didnt pay a fortune for them. They are an interesting project and I too saw some of the original Tigers and agree they are something different. How or why they are different seems to be the question. A question that the F1's didn't answer at all. I'm gonna give it a go to see if we can figure it out. If not, they are interesting looking brongersmai, and that alone makes them worth owning.
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Steve Frist

frists@rcs.k12.tn.us

http://www.sgh.rcs.k12.tn.us/TEACHERS/frists/SGHwebpage_07/Reptiles.htm

Hey Steve,

I have my fingers crossed for you!
It seems like we all focus on the most common patterns of inheritance....Recessives, Dominants and Co-Dominant.
But sometimes we seem to forget about the possibilities of an "incomplete dominant" genetic trait...could be a clue to the riddle?

Perhaps your breeding efforts will help to answer some questions.
Who knows? I look forward to seeing what comes of your project.
Best wishes on the outcome. I'd love to see photos of the F1s you are working with...as well as the F2 generation.
Take care.

Your friend,
Harlin Wall - WALL TO WALL REPTILES!
970-245-7611
970-255-9255