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finally pics here she is tom thanks to casey lazik for pics regards Brian L Wilson

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Thanks Brian

Did anyone else notice the color of the the tongue on this snake? The "piebald" viridis that wound up at the Rattlesnake Museum in Albuquerque also had a red tongue. There is a pic of this snake in Rubio's book (page 45), but it doesn't show the tongue.

Does anyone know if this has ever been bred? And what the genetics are simple recessive? co dom? Where they animals found as babies or adults??

That is awesome!! Does anyone know if the specimen in the picture produced offspring and if so, are they available? I still would love to see an albino ruber turn up in the future.

was that the collector that bought it prided himself on owning one of a kind specimens and would pay unreal prices to obtain them. He intended to keep it as one of a kind and had no intention of breeding it.

Gee that's just lovely!! I am hoping that this wonderful specimen doesn't die before producing offspring (much like the leucistic Eastern Diamondback Bill Love found-if I remember correctly)--that would be a tragedy and this wonderful morph would disappear from existence. The guy who sold this animal would have made much more money from selling ruber neonates with the piebald gene than he ever would by selling that individual piebald ruber to the collector who paid the unreal price and then selfishly hindered it from producing offspring. I just hope this animal is still alive and hopefully the collector who has it can be convinced (or conned) into allowing it to breed thus preserving this morph for future generations. Time will tell, I guess.

I'm the guy that sold it and that was a different time. I used to sell Ghost and Pastel Balls for $10 more [about $25 ea]. Hell once I got in the 1980's 4-5 solid black Ball Pythons and told my employees not to send them unless the person bought at least a hundred because I didn't want customers mad for getting ugly ones..lol...Unless something was an albino no one really cared.....
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Tom Crutchfield
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hahaha< I remember us recieving Caramel Ball's and almost black one's when I worked for you Tom. Some had partial striping and we had to tell customers (over the phone) uh, sorry, the only one's we have left are partially striped or REAL dark. hahahahaha!
Who would have thought? hahahahaha!

Randal

as there was at least one other piebald ruber originating from Baja. It is pictured in Manny Rubio's book. Not as nice looking as the one pictured here though.

Rich

There is a dry lake in Baja (name is forgotten by me) that has produced TWO (yes 2) pied rubers. The first collected by Terry Basey (sp?). His animal ended up at Cal Poly Pomona and died of old age. That is the Rubio animal. I had occasion to photograph it and enjoy it's company on a few occasions.

The other was collected by the infamous John Ottley. I know nothing of the disposition of his specimen. My guess he sold it like all the other animals he collected.

Tom C, perhaps this explains why it was sold and not bred?!?!?
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