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We have noticed a lot of discussion on Peruvian Rainbows. Some one mentioned an ad stating we have one with a scale count of 39. That is our ad and our animal. We received these animals along with a shipment of Peruvian Boa Constrictors. All of these animals came out of Peru. We have noticed from the B.C.O./B.C.C. (another issue) that these animals came from an area of southern Peru. On the issue of scale count, we have rainbows with counts at mid body that range from 35 to 45. We are posting pics of the rainbow before shed and mid body shed so that you may be able to look and count for yourself. Also with this same group, we have individuals which do not have the high lightened sides. Just thought we might add a little more confusion.

Central Florida Reptile Breeders

Rob,
. Do you know how far south in Peru these animals came from? The snake in the PIC looks like it has BIG scales. IMO there is a big difference between Epicrates cenchria cenchria and Epirates cenchria gaigei and this snake is an extreme example of the gaigei's fewer and larger scales. This does however add further confusion to the questions about scale counts on gaigei and cenchria cenchria. There seems to be a clinal variaton with an undefined scale count and range boundary between the two subspecies Before seeing this snake it seemed like the further south the fewer and larger the scales. If this snake came from southern Peru it does cause confusion with this idea because the type specimen and other gaigei from southern Peru and Bolivia have around 41 to 43 scale rows at midbody. IMO the presence or absense of large or small highlights on the sides occurs often in both subspecies and is not a reliable feature to use in identification.
Jeff

>>We have noticed a lot of discussion on Peruvian Rainbows. Some one mentioned an ad stating we have one with a scale count of 39. That is our ad and our animal. We received these animals along with a shipment of Peruvian Boa Constrictors. All of these animals came out of Peru. We have noticed from the B.C.O./B.C.C. (another issue) that these animals came from an area of southern Peru. On the issue of scale count, we have rainbows with counts at mid body that range from 35 to 45. We are posting pics of the rainbow before shed and mid body shed so that you may be able to look and count for yourself. Also with this same group, we have individuals which do not have the high lightened sides. Just thought we might add a little more confusion.
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Jeff
We have not yet been actively pursuing the exact location of where these animals came from within Peru. As our main interest in the shipment was true Peruvian Boa Constrictors for our breeding stock. Here is a few of the examples of the Boas. These are definitely some of the best Peru has to offer.

Central Florida Reptile Breeders

Rob,
. Those are some beautiful Boas. It is interesting that you mentioned the Bcc and Bco in your first post. When I first got into Boas in the 60s there was much confusion and disagreement about the subspecific identification and ranges of Boa constrictor and not much has been settled of it since then. I fully expect that the discussions with differing opinions about the subspecies of Epicrates cenchria will continue without resolution for decades. I suppose this is all not nearly as important as just appreciating the snakes for the amazing animals that they are.
Jeff

>>Jeff
>>We have not yet been actively pursuing the exact location of where these animals came from within Peru. As our main interest in the shipment was true Peruvian Boa Constrictors for our breeding stock. Here is a few of the examples of the Boas. These are definitely some of the best Peru has to offer.
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