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Erythristic eastern-New addition

scott_felzer Apr 04, 2009 11:16 AM

Just picked up this girl, she is from Florida. She is extremely calm and mild mannered.

Scott

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Replies (13)

TOMDICKINSON Apr 04, 2009 03:05 PM

Great color! she looks a little thin though.

asnakelovinbabe Apr 04, 2009 03:59 PM

I think she's a freshly WC snake if i remember correctly... she doesn't really look that thin to me. She's just not fat is all!

asnakelovinbabe Apr 04, 2009 03:58 PM

wow! she IS nice! that must be the one you mentioned on the phone a few nights ago!!! Put me on the "babies" list!

ejhoene Apr 04, 2009 06:11 PM

Hey Scott
Nice addition, She looks just like the one I picked up from DTS herps last year.
Good luck with her
Ed

boxienuts Apr 04, 2009 07:53 PM

Wow another nice ery, have plans to cross her with an albino? Nice score!
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Jeff Benfer
gartersnakemorph.com
1.0 cinnamon pastel Python regius
1.1 pastel Python regius
1.1 mojave Python regius
0.3 normal Python regius
1.3 Terrapene carolina thriunguis
2.3 Terrapene carolina carolina
4.1 Kinosternon baurii
1.1 Malaclemys terrapin terrapin
2.2 double het albino and anerythristicThamnophis sirtalis parietalis
1.0 anerythristic Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis
2.3 Iowa snow Thamnophis radix
0.2 het Christmas albino Thamnophis radix
1.1 double het cherry erythristic, albino Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 melanistic Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
2.0 66% het snow Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.2 flame Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 triple heterozygous for amelanistic,carmel, and stripe Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 anerythristic motley Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 butter p.h. stripe Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 carmel stripe p.h. amel Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 amelanistic p.h. carmel,stripe Pantherophis guttatus

asnakelovinbabe Apr 04, 2009 09:03 PM

and notice it's another female!!! I commented that to scott the other night, how I noticed WC erythristics are pretty much always female, and yet their offspring will have erythristics of both genders present!

scott_felzer Apr 05, 2009 07:16 PM

Thanks everyone. Yeah it's wierd, have had probably about 15-18 erythristics from thew wild over the years and all have been females. Have produced males from these but never have had one directly from the wild. Any thoughts on why ??

Scott

boxienuts Apr 05, 2009 08:26 PM

You know, a definate majority of the red-sided garters, and brown snakes that I find are females, maybe they are easier to spot because they are bigger, or maybe they travel more, because they need to eat more or cross the roads slower, or maybe the males are more shy and recluse, just ideas. Unless you have noticed scewed sex ratios in offspring favoring females I doubt it is a genetic reason for you recieving mostly wild caught female erys. I think the fact that they need to eat more and so maybe they travel more to do so, may likely be the reason more are seen and thus caught, just a theory.
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Jeff Benfer
gartersnakemorph.com
1.0 cinnamon pastel Python regius
1.1 pastel Python regius
1.1 mojave Python regius
0.3 normal Python regius
1.3 Terrapene carolina thriunguis
2.3 Terrapene carolina carolina
4.1 Kinosternon baurii
1.1 Malaclemys terrapin terrapin
2.2 double het albino and anerythristicThamnophis sirtalis parietalis
1.0 anerythristic Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis
2.3 Iowa snow Thamnophis radix
0.2 het Christmas albino Thamnophis radix
1.1 double het cherry erythristic, albino Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 melanistic Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
2.0 66% het snow Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.2 flame Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 triple heterozygous for amelanistic,carmel, and stripe Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 anerythristic motley Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 butter p.h. stripe Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 carmel stripe p.h. amel Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 amelanistic p.h. carmel,stripe Pantherophis guttatus

TOMDICKINSON Apr 06, 2009 05:57 AM

Probally because females bask more than the males do.especially when they are gravid.In may- june I catch nothing but females.

asnakelovinbabe Apr 09, 2009 07:50 PM

Scott,

When we were talking about this on the phone didn't you mention that a large percentage of erythristic babies are born females? I swear I remember you mentioning that!

Scott_Felzer Apr 10, 2009 08:47 AM

Shannon,

Of the Carteret County erythristic males I held back (4), one looks like a flame, 2 look like very low end erythristics and the last is a high red male. This has been the first group of erythristics that I held onto since birth, almost all of the females have been medium to high red so there is definately more reds in females than males, from this breeding anyways.

Scott

asnakelovinbabe Apr 10, 2009 07:55 PM

haha, that's funny considering of my pair the male is bursting into reds and oranges and the female is just starting to bloom now. She didn't have any reddish look at all when I first got them, and the male had just some hints of orange on his sides of his neck... now hes unmistakeably awesome and the female now looks like the male did right before he started to burst into color! She also eats ungodly portions of food!!!

Scott_Felzer Apr 11, 2009 08:16 AM

Cool, from eveyone I have talked to that has gotten these, there seems to be a huge variability in the colors (the degree and shade of red color) and even the patterns. It will be really interesting to see the variability of the erythristic albinos colors and patterns. I am hoping for babies from both the Carteret County and the Myrtle Beach bloodlines.

Scott

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