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What are the best methods of getting imports to eat domestic rats.
i am breeding gerbils to feed he...will she even take the gerbils? also how would i switch her over to rats?

regards,

alex

I used this method to get my wild caught adult female to eat. If I had tried it sooner, it wouldn't have taken her 8 months before she took her first meal with me.

I had her in a tub setup with a "natural" bedding of mixed peat moss and potting soil. A depression was made in the bedding and a large half-log hide (with cardboard stapled to the front and back with a hole cut into the front large enough for her to fit in) was placed on top of the depression. Although I imagine any snug hide would work. A dark-colored, small, just weaned rat was placed into the tub after prescenting the room in the evening. She took the rat immediately and never looked back. Hope this helps...

i wish i could claim this as my own idea, but i cant. someone sent this to me and i cant remember their name to give them credit.

Most ball pythons in the pet trade are imported from Africa. In Africa, they do not eat mice; they eat gerbils and other small mammals that smell nothing like the mice and rats we buy to feed carnivorous reptiles. They simply do not recognize mice as being food. They are crated up and shipped off around the world, the hatchlings sent off before they've even had a meal. They get dumped into pet stores who know little about them and will cheerfully sell them saying "Hey, it's a great eater!" when in fact the animal has
never eaten. Of late there also seems to be a disturbing tendency for some reptile breeders to buy imported balls and pass them off as captive bred...either that or they are doing a lousy job quarantining new stock as I've been seeing a number of "captive bred" balls who are loaded with ticks.
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Compound this with the fact that the animals are stressed and heavily parasitized and dehydrated, and you have an animal that may well die unless it gets into the hands of someone who knows what is going on.
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Trick into Self-feeding
A healthy ball may be tricked into eating in a couple of different ways:
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Provide a dark hidebox for it - an inverted flower pot with a hole in it, a cardboard box, half log, hollow log section, ceramic cave - whatever works. It is okay if the snake's body touches all the sides when it is inside - they feel more secure this way. Dangle killed prey (use forceps) in front of it.
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Feed at night, not during the day. These are nocturnal snakes and may be uncomfortable feeding during the day.
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If it takes the prey but won't eat, or won't take it, drop the mouse inside, and swathe the enclosure with towels to block the snake from seeing anybody or anything and leave it alone for 24 hours.
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If gerbils are legal in your state, try feeding stunned, then killed gerbils. If it takes them, start rubbing killed mice on gerbils to scent them, and offer the mice (a killed gerbil can be used repeatedly if kept frozen and defrosted when needed for scenting). Try hamsters if you can't get gerbils.
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Try multicolored or colored mice. There are no albino mice in the wild - at least, not enough for any animal to imprint on them. The prey wild balls eat are various shades of brown, so select brown or multicolored mice for feeding.
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From Bill Arrington: "At night, I removed the snake from the enclosure, kept him out for about half an hour or so. While he was out, I placed a freshly killed mouse in the enclosure then introduced the snake back into the enclosure. Within 5 minutes he had ate it. I told the pet store I deal with about this method and it worked for them too."
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Dip the prekilled mouse in warmed chicken broth.
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Temperature and Lighting
Make sure the enclosure is warm enough (mid 70s on cool side up to mid-to-high 80s on warm side). No snake needs UVA or B, and while a week of direct sun (with shade!) or proper UVA/B lighting will help a reluctant diurnal corn snake to start feeding, it generally has little effect on nocturnal species. Do make sure the room gets a normal photoperiod, with a distinct daylight period (lights on and/or windows uncovered for natural daylight to come in) and night time (dark) period. Keep any heat lights used in the tank to nocturnal reptile lights or other nonwhite light emitting lights, or a ceramic heating element safely blocked off so that the snake cannot touch it.

Hope this helps.
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Thanks
Chad Ramsey