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I produced this one last year, but have havent had the best luck with him.... He's a picky eater and I've never been able to get him to eat consistently.

I'm hoping this years clutches are just as good looking and are good eaters.

byron.d

byron, he is very nice. Have you tried say old chicks or quail ?
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts

>>byron, he is very nice. Have you tried say old chicks or quail ?
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>>Frank Roberts
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts

Where do I get the day old baby chicks or baby quail? Or some very small eggs, even smaller than pigeon eggs?

I have an extremely finicky Great Basin Gopher snake from the Oregon High Desert, that has eaten baby birds before, but I no longer have access to any nests to raid. Besides, in my county it is illegal to harass the quail in any way. The quail out-number the humans, and have more rights than the people.

This is the start of the annual short period of time that my snake will even consider eating. I need to find something to feed my GB Gopher snake, other than rodents, since I am no longer allowed to possess any rodents; either alive or frozen.

Just a question snakey lakey but why arent you allowed to posses any rodents?
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Cheesemonkey

In the state of Oregon it is a FELONY offense for a single household to possess an aggregate total of ten or more animals, without a very expensive permit as an animal shelter.

My, senior citizen, mother has her spayed cat; and I have my Gopher snake and my Garter snake. That is three animals to start with.

As soon as one rat has a litter, the number of pups in that litter immediately puts me over the limit; unless she should have an exceptionally small litter. The fact that the rats are to produce snake food is totally irrelevant. Frozen rodents are simply considered dead animals, and are proof positive that the FELONY CRIME of animal hoarding has been committed. The fact that they are snake food is completely irrelevant.

Animal hoarding carries the mandatory penalties of: long jail time; and high fines; and community service hours; and worst of all, never being allowed to own, or have contact with any animals whatsoever for the rest of that persons life. If a convicted animal hoarder, so much as pets someone else's dog then they must serve further jail time. I think that these penaties are overly severe, but that's just the way that it is in Oregon.

Last year, I was told that I had to get rid of ALL of my live rats, and frozen rodents; or be charged with animal hoarding. Therefore, my Great Basin Gopher snake did not get enough to eat last year, and is hungry this year.

If I am going to feed rodents, I must breed my own, because the nearest pet store is over 130 miles away, one way; but breeding my own automatically puts me over the maximum number of animals that I can legally possess. If I were to buy frozen rodents online, which I doubt that my extremely finicky Gopher snake would even eat, they would just be considered more dead animals and also put me over the maximum number of animals allowed.

Therefore, since I do NOT want my snake to starve, I must find an alternative food source, that is not illegal.

Personally i would just keep on with your breeding rats and keep supplying your own food items....

How will they ever know unless you willingly tell them that you are over the supposed limit?

now i am sure that a greater felony would be animal cruelty??

surely you are by breeding your own food supply preventing animal cruelty(on the part of the snake)being a responsible owner surely they would overlook if you go over the limit of animals per household?

Its not your fault you dont want your snake to die and if this means breaking some laws then this is a must.....

Question is which would you rather be a responsible owner who cares for there snakes or an irresponsible owner who sees that his snakes should suffer because of stupid laws that say you cant even have dead(frozen) animals if it puts you above the limit of 10 per house???

Only in america could you have such a law and personally i think it sucks....
Thank god for the uk.......
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Cheesemonkey