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xblackheart Apr 11, 2009 03:33 PM

I was thinking possible corn X Bull hybrid. I have posted this in a couple forums to try and get an idea. There is no background on this snake because it has had many owners


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****Misty****

www.sneakyserpents.com

"Due to intense Mind fog, all thoughts have been grounded."

Replies (14)

RandyWhittington Apr 11, 2009 08:50 PM

It just looks like a very unusually colored corn to me.
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Randy Whittington

antelope Apr 11, 2009 10:17 PM

I say the same thing, really funky corn, but cool!
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Todd Hughes

Nokturnel Tom Apr 11, 2009 11:43 PM

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xblackheart Apr 12, 2009 03:05 PM

hey Tom, explain your thoughts to me. You are the third person to say Bairdi, but I just dont see it. Let me know. Thanks
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****Misty****

www.sneakyserpents.com

"Due to intense Mind fog, all thoughts have been grounded."

Nokturnel Tom Apr 13, 2009 09:22 PM

In the belly pic you can see the orange/rust color trying to come out. I thought of the color change they go through as babies into adults...and it seemed to me like the color and pattern are trying to be a Bairds but a Corn or other type of Rat snakes influence is ruining it. That dull baby Bairdi color that goes orange and then silver if I am not mistaken?...just seemed like a good guess to me...I especially thought of it when I saw the belly shot...those scales near it really reminded me of Bairdi
Tom Stevens
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xblackheart Apr 13, 2009 09:47 PM

Hey, thanks for your imput. I appreciate it.
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****Misty****

www.sneakyserpents.com

"Due to intense Mind fog, all thoughts have been grounded."

xblackheart Apr 12, 2009 03:03 PM

hey, thanks for the input.
I have about 150 corns. Trust me, there is no chance this is just an odd corn. I think it either has bull or gopher. The head is way too bulky/stubby-like to be a corn. The snake is real thick-bodied as well.
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****Misty****

www.sneakyserpents.com

"Due to intense Mind fog, all thoughts have been grounded."

antelope Apr 12, 2009 05:29 PM

Misty, how 'bout a shot of the face, a frontal so we can see the rostral scale.
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Todd Hughes

xblackheart Apr 12, 2009 06:24 PM

Looks like he has a scar across his nose. Hope all these views help


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****Misty****

www.sneakyserpents.com

"Due to intense Mind fog, all thoughts have been grounded."

antelope Apr 12, 2009 11:14 PM

Thanks for those shots! I am firm in the belief there is no pine, bull, or gopher in there, but could be any other obsoleta if there is indeed a mix. Those are some very cool colors but that is almost certainly mostly corn, the belly says it all for me, but I can see how there could be bairdi in there.
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Todd Hughes

FRoberts Apr 12, 2009 05:37 PM

corn and some american rat perhaps......

The body type looks like an American Rat snake not a bull or gopher snake.

Looks like obsoleta body type and belly coloration as well.

Also the snake is so fat the Interstitial Skin showing all that white is throwing off the true color and pattern of the snake in question.

The blotches on the snakes back also strongly resemble obsoleta genes as well......just like the belly.
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts

zhaa Apr 12, 2009 09:05 PM

I vote obsoleta as well.

thomas davis Apr 12, 2009 09:06 PM


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xblackheart Apr 13, 2009 01:16 AM

Thanks everyone for your feedback. you have been most helpful.
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****Misty****

www.sneakyserpents.com

"Due to intense Mind fog, all thoughts have been grounded."

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