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This is always a nice start to the season. I am breeding 14 females this year and I started putting snakes together this evening. I was able to observe a few quick lockups.

Okeetees

Amel Banded Mot X Creamscicle

Striped Mot X Butter Mot

Not corns but I'm going to toss them in here too:

Desert Kings

>>This is always a nice start to the season. I am breeding 14 females this year and I started putting snakes together this evening. I was able to observe a few quick lockups.
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congrats !!!!!!
looking good.
good luck with everything
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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Thanks Jimmy. I hope that we ALL do very well this season.

BTW--I put the Lavender Mot project snakes together as well. I didn't observe any action but I've left them alone. They bred last year so hopefully we'll have the sme luck this year.

>>Thanks Jimmy. I hope that we ALL do very well this season.
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>>BTW--I put the Lavender Mot project snakes together as well. I didn't observe any action but I've left them alone. They bred last year so hopefully we'll have the sme luck this year.

fingers crossed!!!!
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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Damn straight dude, I really don't want to let you down.

I am a little jealous of the kings! I have to wait a year for my snakes to mature. I hope to get some nice albinos next year. Good luck with your work and thanks for the help you give.

Dave
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One man with faith equals the majority.
Thomas Jefferson

Thanks for the kind words Dave.

I'm really excited about the King projects.

I've bred Pueblan Milks before but then my breeder female..I'm embarrassed to admit this...escaped and set that project back 3 years. I will breed those again next year.

I've bought a lot of King breeding stock last year and in a couple of years I hope to breed: Eastern Chain Kings, Cal Kings, Mexican Black Kings, and Nelson's Milks.

I was absolutely terrified to put the desert kings together. You woulodn't believe the feeding response those things have!!! I open up either of their tubs and they're coming OUT to eat something...sometimes my fingers. I kept a close eye on things when I put them together. Thankfully they were both 'in the mood' and not viewing each other as food sources. PHEW!!!!

As far as the corns go, I was absolutely estatic to see the Striped Motley and the Butter Motley lock up.

The first generation will produce 1/2 motleys and 1/2 striped motleys.......

But if I keep some (maybe ALL) of the striped motleys and breed them for an F1 generation:

18/64, Striped Motley
9/64, Motley
9/64, Striped
6/64, Striped Motley, Caramel
6/64, Striped Motley, Amelanistic
3/64, Caramel, Motley
3/64, Amelanistic, Motley
3/64, Caramel, Striped
3/64, Amelanistic, Striped
2/64, Butter, Striped Motley
1/64, Butter, Motley
1/64, Butter, Striped

I'm EXCITED about those possibilities!!! I have no problem waiting for the youngsters to grow either. If I've learned one thing by breeding, its PATIENCE...these projects take years but if you have the what seems to be very rare ability to see beyond the first generation, the wait is worth it.

Sounds like you have your hands full! This is an exciting time of year for me. Like many others, I have eggs on the way and can't wait to see how they turn out.

I have two albino prairie kings that will make a great project next year. I also have some striped cal kings that I just love. I may not find a market for them, but I will have fun breeding them.

Thanks for filling me in on your plans. Hope things go well with you. Keep us posted on your progress!

Dave
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One man with faith equals the majority.
Thomas Jefferson

Thanks. I'd love to see the baby albino calligasters. Best of luck with that project.

I've never heard the term Calligaster before. Are Prairie Kings called something else? Thanks for reading.
Dave
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One man with faith equals the majority.
Thomas Jefferson

Prairie Kings--Lampropeltis calligaster

"Thanks for the help" he said; a little embarrassed at having to ask.

Dave
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One man with faith equals the majority.
Thomas Jefferson

>>Thanks for the kind words Dave.
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>>I'm really excited about the King projects.
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>>I've bred Pueblan Milks before but then my breeder female..I'm embarrassed to admit this...escaped and set that project back 3 years. I will breed those again next year.
>>
>>I've bought a lot of King breeding stock last year and in a couple of years I hope to breed: Eastern Chain Kings, Cal Kings, Mexican Black Kings, and Nelson's Milks.
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>>I was absolutely terrified to put the desert kings together. You woulodn't believe the feeding response those things have!!! I open up either of their tubs and they're coming OUT to eat something...sometimes my fingers. I kept a close eye on things when I put them together. Thankfully they were both 'in the mood' and not viewing each other as food sources. PHEW!!!!
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>>As far as the corns go, I was absolutely estatic to see the Striped Motley and the Butter Motley lock up.
>>
>>The first generation will produce 1/2 motleys and 1/2 striped motleys.......
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>>But if I keep some (maybe ALL) of the striped motleys and breed them for an F1 generation:
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>>18/64, Striped Motley
>>9/64, Motley
>>9/64, Striped
>>6/64, Striped Motley, Caramel
>>6/64, Striped Motley, Amelanistic
>>3/64, Caramel, Motley
>>3/64, Amelanistic, Motley
>>3/64, Caramel, Striped
>>3/64, Amelanistic, Striped
>>2/64, Butter, Striped Motley
>>1/64, Butter, Motley
>>1/64, Butter, Striped
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>>I'm EXCITED about those possibilities!!! I have no problem waiting for the youngsters to grow either. If I've learned one thing by breeding, its PATIENCE...these projects take years but if you have the what seems to be very rare ability to see beyond the first generation, the wait is worth it.

Hey Justin,
Ever worked with any Eastern black kings.
They're really sharp looking.
That's what we have in this area. I'm surprised I don't see more people working with them.
And to keep this on topic.
I bet you were pumped when the stripe motley and butter motley hooked up. Great project!!!

Link

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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Oh, man, I was super pumped when I saw the striped mot and butter mot lock up. I was also hoping to see my mot het lavender hook up with the first normal het lavender mot but it didn't happen while I was watching. I seperated them today for feeding. Soon I'll put him in with the second het lavender mot and see if there's more interest. I'll keep introducing them. I also paired up a couple of outcross bloodreds hoping for some bloodreds out of that pairing. No action observed but we'll see.

I've seen some pics of wild Eastern Black Kings on FHF but I've not seen them in the pet trade yet. They remind me of a really dark holbrooki or maybe a lesser patterned chain king. I'm not really sure what the differences are. I need to learn more about the Eastern Blacks I suppose. If possible, I'd like to eventually work with every species of Lampropeltis getula that is out there. Don't know if I'll accomplish that or not, but that's the goal.