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Well she laid between 12-15 eggs this morning. All but one look viable and likely to hatch. Now the wait starts. Oh well a great way to start the day....

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Tom Crutchfield
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Very cool to see how positive the outdoor setup worked. I'm tellin' ya....year round cycling with Boelen's next... Again, congratulations!
Scott

Congrats Tom! "They" said it couldn't be done!
As Tom used to say, "waiting the blessed event"
LOL!

Randal

So the Easter Bunny stopped at Tom's house??? They don't look chocolate to me, lol

Congrats!!

No but the sight of them made me HOP AROUND.....
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Tom Crutchfield
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>>Well she laid between 12-15 eggs this morning. All but one look viable and likely to hatch. Now the wait starts. Oh well a great way to start the day....
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts

Hey old man, looks like you've still got it!

Congrats.

Brian

Jeez...I think I'm in the same age bracket as Tom. I must be old, too

You know you're getting old when you realize that the time to maturity of certain animals means you may not be around to see them mate, lol

Jay, I directed my remark to Brian but it could apply to you as well. I was thinking back the other day and did I buy from you and Sam some Mexican River Turtles [Dermatemy mawi] way back when?
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Tom Crutchfield
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We discussed this in Singapore and your one of the few people I know even older than me. When are you coming down to visit?...
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Tom Crutchfield
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Busted! LOL I knew I was setting myself up for that comeback, but I couldn't resist. Yep, I've got a year on you. One thing about Singapore that sticks in my mind was the hotel bellhop who seemed quite fond of you! I'm sure you remember that.

I am anxious to see your farm and set up. I always enjoyed coming down a few days early for the Expo when it was in Orlando and hanging out at your place(s). Whether it was catching corn snakes in your back yard or messing with the crocs and gators, it was always a great time.

Brian

Come on down early and we'll go look at wild crocs.....You were standing by me and the bellhop asked about you in Bahasa. You just didn't understand the language. You thought he was looking at me but he was looking past me at you. Tarima Kasi
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Tom Crutchfield
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Nice try!

Tom, Nice job!!

to your knowledge ever used maternal incubation with Diamaonds? Just curious.

Kelly

I'm not sure. This morning I took them away but she was actually shivering like a molurus Python and I temp gunned the inside of her coils and they were 89 degrees with the ambient at 76...thanks
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Tom Crutchfield
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that is good information to have. That is about the temp that would be expected, but it is great to be able to actually confirm it. The data Shine had for most of the larger Australian python species that were found thermoregulating in the wild showed interior coil temps in the 87 to 89 range. Thanks again and great work,

Kelly

Did you know they shivered? I didn't and I've bred a lot of Jungle Carpets and they didn't shiver....
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Tom Crutchfield
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I have seen my cheynei shivering on her clutch over the past 40 days, but have yet to see either of my mcdowelli exibit the behavior. Could be the location of nest boxes or variations between individuals...I hope to have some more data within the next couple years.
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"He who would stifle debate rather than engage in it, does so at the expense of his integrity and credibility"

Mike Curtin

Tom,
I looked back at some of my field data files and all of the field reports of diamonds on eggs have shown them to be shivering while on the egg mass. They apparently don't have the physiological ability to maintain the consistent high temps day and night in their cooler climate as the molurus group is capable of. Coil measurements show peak temps about early evening, with egg mass temps falling by morning. Diamonds are apparently only able to hold the temps up to 89 or 90 during the day and early evening when the energy drain on them is lower with the higher daytime ambient temps. It's probably too much of an energy loss on the female to try and maintain temps in the very late evening and early morning while ambient is at the lowest point. She therefore saves energy by not trying to keep the temp up during these cooler hours. The embryos have obviously adapted to this cycling as it would kill molurus eggs.

Jungles must be like blood pythons. I have seen some on eggs that shiver, and some that don't.

Kelly

All of the Morelia in my group...have shown this behavior while on eggs.......and sometimes.....a good while after I have taken eggs from them.
I still have a female (who's eggs I took... 3 weeks ago) shivering as if she still has them....and she eats to boot! Haha.

I do keep my animals on the cool side so....might be temp related as to "how much" they exhibit the behavior.

Cheers,
D.

Many, many, many congrats to you! Can't wait to see them hatch.
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"He who would stifle debate rather than engage in it, does so at the expense of his integrity and credibility"

Mike Curtin