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Whatis the difference between a New England Brooksi and a "normal" Anerythristic Brooksi?

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Steve

Sorry, I guess I'm looking for the difference between the N.E. and a "normal" axanthic Brooksi. (not anery)

Sorry

Steve

Sorry, I guess I'm looking for the difference between the N.E. and a "normal" axanthic Brooksi. (not anery)

If you look at my reply I mentioned that they are from different phenotypes or locales. basically the New Englands came from lighter colored stock than the Lemkes. The Lemke stock has also been outbred to everything under the sun. I don't think there is a single true Lemke around. The Lemke stock had fertility problems in the beginning so had to be bred out immediatly to all sorts of other Florida king stock. The New England stock never had any fertility problems and "should" not be outbred. I use the term "should" because there are people selling New England stock that has been outcrossed and are just using the name to market their snakes. Kinda like everyone uses "brooksi" for all locales of Florida kings.
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Sorry, I guess I'm looking for the difference between the N.E. and a "normal" axanthic Brooksi. (not anery)

Your question also presumes there is such a thing as an anery that is different from an axanthic.. That is why i posted the long explanation.

But i guess you just wanted to know the difference from a New England from everything else out there and why they are special.

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The two terms axanthic and anerythristic can be used interchagably since yellows and red are all related. For instance when does a red florida neonate turn ornage and then yellow to start off life as an anery and end up as an axanthic? However if you questions relates to the "New England" trait specifically it is allelic with all the axanthic and Anerys with the exception of one new trait that originated from BHB enterprises. The NE "line" has more to do with the original stock the axanthic triat came from and was not outbred.

The history on these two terms (anery and axanthic) keep changing and have been some debate on this forum so I hope it does not stir up those with over-inflated egos. Originally, back when the first axanthic/anerys appeared they were called "anerythistic by Lloyd lemke. Then the name changed from anery to axanthic to differentiate the Lemke anery from the New England(Canal stock)line even though they were compatiple traits. So then everyone called them axanthics. Then around 2003, from a marketing standpoint, I decided to call the ugly dark brownnish axanthics ANERYS .

SINCE then there was a axanthic (anery) that was bred to a axanthic and the two lines proved to not to be allelic.

So now we have two lines and for practical purpose it makes sense to call the two unrelated traits something different.. if for no other reaon than hobbiest puposes to make it easier for people to distinguish two lines that are not compatiple. However according to Dr. Bern Bechtel, anery and axanthic are two terms from a proper genetics description are one and the same and the two terms can still be used interchagably.. I have some axanthics that look like anerys that are allelic with axanthics. LOL! Got that straight?
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Wow, thanks for the lesson!

That does help a lot.

Thanks again

Steve