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Just curious what thoughts are regarding "rare" boa species.
And I am not talking about morphs but rather locales or populations that are no longer or infrequently collected/imported.

IMO, longicauda would head that list...

what do you think?

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Lateralis
"I would rather be precisely wrong than approximately right"
Marion "Doc" Ford

Boa constrictor longicauda are readily available in captivity. The true rarities are the Dominican clouded boa Boa constrictor nebulosus and the St Lucia boa Boa constrictor orophias. Try to find those readily in captivity.

Warren
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Dr Warren Booth
North Carolina State University
Department of Entomology
3309 Gardner Hall
Raleigh, NC 27695-7613

yep heard there was less then 5 combined in the us. hope, that's not true. both have been at the top of my list for years. pure Hondurans (both main land and Roatane island) Cancun, El Salvador(only pure bloods and hets I think), wee key, all are hard to come by locals. then there are the never exported B.C Ortoni. some times you will see ortoni listed but their not their just B.C.C that got mislabeled cause that's is the first species people come across in the book when they look for the scientific name of their Peruvian.

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I agree.

Joel
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Boa constrictor longicauda are readily available in captivity. The true rarities are the Dominican clouded boa Boa constrictor nebulosus and the St Lucia boa Boa constrictor orophias. Try to find those readily in captivity.

Thanks Doc, but I dont mean rare in captivity. nebulosus and orophias have been around before, albeit was 15 years ago that I saw them regularly posted or available. What the current status is I am not sure however I do not doubt that they are suffering since they are still collected for oil last I heard.

But when was the last time someone went down and found a longicauda in the wild??? I would imagine most of the insular species are few and far between except for Hogs and Sabo's, but when was the last time someone collected, studied, or imported a longicauda from Tumbes?

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Lateralis
"I would rather be precisely wrong than approximately right"
Marion "Doc" Ford

The clouded Boa - Boa Nebulosus
Boa Orophias
Orton's boa - Boa Ortnii
Uncollected Island Boas
This question was actually addressed not too many weeks ago
There were a couple answers of species I've never of heard of ,LOL
They were non Boa Constrictor species tree Boas types etc...

Had this typed up never hit post ealier
. . . Lar M
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Boas By Klevitz
Boas By Klevitz

I believe would be the rarest in terms of Boa constrictor ssp..The entire habitat is a few hundred square yds. Bob Sears was the last person to even see any. I've looked hard on 3 occasions and was unable to see evidence of any at all....
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Tom Crutchfield
www.tomcrutchfield.com

Most locality boas are not sub species and shouldn't be. As I've pointed out on many occasions there's nothing that legitimately separates one " locality" from another. An animal might be rare in a certain place, for example it's very difficult to find a timber rattlesnake in Montgomery county Pa but over all their not that uncommon. That's the story with many boas that have a pet trade locality tag. It's called a such and such isle boa but it's not really specific to that location.

To me rare is the total known number . If you can buy a particular species on line it's not that rare. If an animal is common in the wild but not available in the pet trade to me it's not rare.

If you can't find them any place or at any price then it`s rare.

Overall..............based on known numbers island Tres Marias boa is the rarest. It's only known from a total of 9 animals and currently there are no authentic specimens in captivity.

Ernie Eison
WESTWOOD ACRES REPTILE FARM INC.

Hey Ernie, those longis I got from you some years ago threw some outrageous babies last summer, 24 perfect jewels and I think I got some of that hypo gene in their too. Quite a few lack black of any kind on them, I call them "Mochas"...

I'll try an email you a picture or three...

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Lateralis
"I would rather be precisely wrong than approximately right"
Marion "Doc" Ford

Don't think it's the rarest? Find a picture of a live specimen.

How many do you want? 10 lot, 20 lot? Come by house, I got boatloads of them. hahahhaa

Yea Mike and you got them from me....
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Tom Crutchfield
www.tomcrutchfield.com