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Had these this afternoon..female sunglow went 103 days after pos...not sure .. what I have...lol..seems like 4 differant morphs...
I've been at this for alittle while ..all the reading and planning is not the same as events like this...its humbling..no doubt..and alot harder then you think..alot can go Wrong..this is just a hobby for me..my hats off to breeders that do this for a living.
I had a blast today..what ever the out come..
I wanted to also say thank you to.. Jeremy Stone..for producing my male..thats now proven.
thanks for looking.

Motley Sunglow ,Motley Albino ,Albino,Snow ? and/or Motley snow.
Am I reading those pictures right ? LOL
Congratulations on a great looking litter !

. . . Lar M
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Boas By Klevitz
Boas By Klevitz

What was the Pairing?

Awesome! What a nice looking litter. Some of those have some interesting pattern. Nice Motley!(?) What exactly were mom and dad? Thanks for sharing and keep posting pics!
Congratulations!
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Cheers,
Jessica
10.15 Ball Pythons; 8.9 Corn Snakes; 0.0.1 Green Tree Python
2.2 Jungle Carpet Pythons
6.6.1 Bci
3.0 Crazy Dogs and 2.0 cats
Some Tropical Fish
...........and growing!

Only a dreamer could have produced such a nice litter.

Congratulations my friend.

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Brian Gundy

www.for-goodness-snakes.com

Congrates Tibor, big time! Those look like albino super motleys, that's my guess. Keep us posted on the litter! Sweet dreams tonight.

That's what they are,Supers didn't even cross my mind for some reason.
I guess cause the Fem was a Sunglow I didn't think she'd be
a Sunglow Motley
. . . Lar M
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Boas By Klevitz
Boas By Klevitz

Cant be albino supers mots

n/p

Great babies nonetheless! Post pics of Mom & Dad when you get the chance...I'm sure everyone would like to see!

Congrats...Sweet litter!
Ryan Decaro

Awesome litter!!!
When you say the male proved out, could that mean he was a Super Motley??? If so, that's awesome!!! Those normals in there kinda through it off from being a Super Motley breeding, but it still could be, since no ones done it before?

Huge CONGRATS either way!

Chaz Neely
constrictors@comcast.net

I see no anery so I wanna say those are 2 super albino motleys?
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www.BetterBoa.com

7.5 BCIs
4.5 Corn snakes

They cant be a super mot produced by a Sunglow. And there are no old enough female or even male Sunglow Mots to produce. So I say there is a snow gene in this albino to albino breeding... Am i right..

Yes you can make Albino Super Motleys by using a Sunglow Motley if bred to another Motley het Albino, or Albino Motley. I don't think that you can make a Sunglow Super Motley though, according to what we know about the Hypo/Motley relationship.

I too am curious to know what the parents were Tibor.
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Snake room janitor

Yes you can make a super motley with a sunglow motley. That is true.. BUT what I was saying is that there are NO mature female or EVEN male sunglow motleys that could have bred this year. So my point is that there cant be a super mot in THIS litter.. See.

This was the exact point of my post up above. I was under the impression that no Sunglow Motley
especially a fem were mature enough to produce a litter yet.
No mature / breedable Fem Sunglow Motley exist yet,correct ?.LOL

. . . Lar M
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Boas By Klevitz
Boas By Klevitz

To my understanding, the sunglow mots where first produced in 2008. There may have been one or two in 2007 but dont remember for sure. Unless some of the bigger breeders kept some very well secrets. Either way a female that bred this year would have to be at least a 2006 and even if there was a 2006 female produce(which I really dont think there was, again with some well kept secrets) then why would someone push such a high quality animal at 2 years. But Im (pretty)sure there are no females sunglow mots that are mature enough.

sunglow motleys in 2004, and the first albino motleys in 2005.

Chris Nicholas

Wow, I didnt know Sunglow Mots were produced in 2004. Shows how much I know, lol. Just wondering, how many did you produce in 2004 and have you bred them yet?

belongs to Jeremy Stone, have not seen it since.

Chris

AMAZING! Congrats! What were the sire/dam?
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1.0 Kahl Albino (25% hogg)
0.1 Kahl Albino (25% hogg)
0.1 Kahl Albino (25% hogg)

1.0 Hypo Double Het Sunglow
0.1 Hypo Double Het Sunglow
0.1 Hypo Double Het Sunglow

Looks like an awesome litter, even if it is just a hobby! lol. Goes to show you what having the ingredients, patience, and work can do. Now, lets see pics of the parents!

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Jeff Ronne Sr
The Boaphile
Director USARK

Originator of Boaphile Plastics
The Boaphile Boa Site

I'm gonna guess Hypo Motley het Albino x Albino Motley. Congrats!

Here's a couple of pictures..I bred my 06"male albino motley "to a 05 barry berg line female sunglow..
She gave me a litter of 20 babies and 3 slugs yesterday after noon...4sunglow motleys,4-5 albino motleys,sunglows,normal albinos and 1 patternless albino,and another white albino with a slightest motley pattern and 3 normal looking anery-kind of albinos...the bad news the white babies died over night as well the normal anery type albinos..which was expected in my eyes when I saw them...all others are looking good with tongue action and movement...a couple with yoke bellys keeping them warm and forcing them to move around.
All I hoped for ..I got ..sunglow motleys so alls good in my eyes..mother fed last night and thrilled to death.I have not sexed them either and does not matter what ratio I have.
Thanks for all the kind words everyone.
Also would like to thank Chris Nicholas..for his time.
I've been laying low..hoping for some babies this season so now I can get back to posting and sharing with pictures and support for our hobby.

Sorry to hear the odd balls all passed on you. I'm wondering do you have any speculation
what might be the case with the odd babies ?
Maybe a stray Anery gene ,so snow babies resulted or some other anomaly maybe ?
Whatever the case kool litter congrats once again !

. . . Lar M
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Boas By Klevitz
Boas By Klevitz

Tibor thats sweet... I am happy for you.
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Richard Ceniceros

RIGHT! Nice results.
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Ty Hege
Rat Race Solutions
www.ratracesolutions.com

For those who are patient! Great job!

Beautiful litter!!! Gems all of them!!!
Congradulations

Alex