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One out so far, (?) to go! Photos when she's done!
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-Toby Brock
Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

Toby I hope to see a picture of a few little calico and het heads peaking out of some eggs in a couple months.
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Randy Whittington

>>Toby I hope to see a picture of a few little calico and het heads peaking out of some eggs in a couple months.
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>>Randy Whittington

Thanks Randy - me too! Three eggs as of 8:30 pm. I'll give her a few more hours before I bother her again.
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-Toby Brock
Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

All riiiiight Toby!
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Todd Hughes

>>All riiiiight Toby!
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>>Todd Hughes

Now for the long wait...

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-Toby Brock
Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

This big girl ended up with eight eggs this year, which is one more than last year. She did not want to give them up (as always) and wrapped her tail around them very tightly. She was also very hissy, but she's such a sweetheart, and never bites. I'm trying a few different things with these snakes, this year, including adding chicks into their diet, and different incubation methods.

Zero substrate incubation - based on Damon Salceies's python egg incubation methods.

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-Toby Brock
Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

>>This big girl ended up with eight eggs this year, which is one more than last year. She did not want to give them up (as always) and wrapped her tail around them very tightly. She was also very hissy, but she's such a sweetheart, and never bites. I'm trying a few different things with these snakes, this year, including adding chicks into their diet, and different incubation methods.
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>>Zero substrate incubation - based on Damon Salceies's python egg incubation methods.
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>>-Toby Brock
>>Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

Toby, that girl is the best looking taeniura I've seen (for a mutation). I sure hope the trial incubation method works for ya'.

I have to admit, one time I didn't make it home in time and my taeni was on her eggs for a week, or more. I think I left her on them even longer just to see what would happen. I'm pretty sure there weren't any problems hatching that year.

I wonder, if you could keep the substrate moist enough, if the eggs wouldn't hatch when left with the mother? I wonder if she would stay with them that long. They sure don't like to give them up, do they?

Best....Terry

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Conserving reptiles by helping to protect habitat...
www.ratsnakehaven.com
www.scenicsantaritas.org

>>Toby, that girl is the best looking taeniura I've seen (for a mutation). I sure hope the trial incubation method works for ya'.
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>>I have to admit, one time I didn't make it home in time and my taeni was on her eggs for a week, or more. I think I left her on them even longer just to see what would happen. I'm pretty sure there weren't any problems hatching that year.
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>>I wonder, if you could keep the substrate moist enough, if the eggs wouldn't hatch when left with the mother? I wonder if she would stay with them that long. They sure don't like to give them up, do they?
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>>Best....Terry
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>>Conserving reptiles by helping to protect habitat...
>>www.ratsnakehaven.com
>>www.scenicsantaritas.org

Thanks Terry. I am hoping that this is the year that I get an entire clutch to hatch alive and healthy.

Ian (RaptorIan) has a theory of them staying with and hatching the eggs, like mother pythons. I'm not up to testing that myself, yet - but maybe some time in the future.

As far as substrate vs none, this is a personal thing, as I feel that I may have contributed to last year's babies' deaths by over-hydrating the medium too close to hatching. With the zero substrate method, all of the moisture is in the air, so no need to worry whether the medium is too moist or not moist enough. My opinion is that these eggs are much more sensitive than our New World ratsnakes' eggs, concerning possibly a few factors.

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-Toby Brock
Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

>>>>Toby, that girl is the best looking taeniura I've seen (for a mutation). I sure hope the trial incubation method works for ya'.
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>>>>I have to admit, one time I didn't make it home in time and my taeni was on her eggs for a week, or more. I think I left her on them even longer just to see what would happen. I'm pretty sure there weren't any problems hatching that year.
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>>>>I wonder, if you could keep the substrate moist enough, if the eggs wouldn't hatch when left with the mother? I wonder if she would stay with them that long. They sure don't like to give them up, do they?
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>>>>Best....Terry
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>>>>Conserving reptiles by helping to protect habitat...
>>>>www.ratsnakehaven.com
>>>>www.scenicsantaritas.org
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>>Thanks Terry. I am hoping that this is the year that I get an entire clutch to hatch alive and healthy.
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>>Ian (RaptorIan) has a theory of them staying with and hatching the eggs, like mother pythons. I'm not up to testing that myself, yet - but maybe some time in the future.
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>>As far as substrate vs none, this is a personal thing, as I feel that I may have contributed to last year's babies' deaths by over-hydrating the medium too close to hatching. With the zero substrate method, all of the moisture is in the air, so no need to worry whether the medium is too moist or not moist enough. My opinion is that these eggs are much more sensitive than our New World ratsnakes' eggs, concerning possibly a few factors.
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>>-Toby Brock
>>Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

Well, good luck with your new method, Toby.

You could also split the clutch up and incubate two different ways, but that's just my mind wandering. Do it your way, and I look forward to seeing those neonates..

Regards...Terry
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Conserving reptiles by helping to protect habitat...
www.ratsnakehaven.com
www.scenicsantaritas.org

great looking eggs! I admire your trying a new technique.(for you) I am going to stay with the old way this year and improve my temps.
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Todd Hughes

>>great looking eggs! I admire your trying a new technique.(for you) I am going to stay with the old way this year and improve my temps.
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>>Todd Hughes

Thanks Todd. My old methods work fine for corns and emoryi apparently, but seem to be flawed in some way, for getting these guys to hatch. Or - there is something else to blame (diet - changed that too), something else???

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-Toby Brock
Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

>>>>>>Toby, that girl is the best looking taeniura I've seen (for a mutation). I sure hope the trial incubation method works for ya'.
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>>>>>>I have to admit, one time I didn't make it home in time and my taeni was on her eggs for a week, or more. I think I left her on them even longer just to see what would happen. I'm pretty sure there weren't any problems hatching that year.
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>>>>>>I wonder, if you could keep the substrate moist enough, if the eggs wouldn't hatch when left with the mother? I wonder if she would stay with them that long. They sure don't like to give them up, do they?
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>>>>>>Best....Terry
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>>>>>>Conserving reptiles by helping to protect habitat...
>>>>>>www.ratsnakehaven.com
>>>>>>www.scenicsantaritas.org
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>>>>Thanks Terry. I am hoping that this is the year that I get an entire clutch to hatch alive and healthy.
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>>>>Ian (RaptorIan) has a theory of them staying with and hatching the eggs, like mother pythons. I'm not up to testing that myself, yet - but maybe some time in the future.
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>>>>As far as substrate vs none, this is a personal thing, as I feel that I may have contributed to last year's babies' deaths by over-hydrating the medium too close to hatching. With the zero substrate method, all of the moisture is in the air, so no need to worry whether the medium is too moist or not moist enough. My opinion is that these eggs are much more sensitive than our New World ratsnakes' eggs, concerning possibly a few factors.
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>>>>-Toby Brock
>>>>Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research
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>>Well, good luck with your new method, Toby.
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>>You could also split the clutch up and incubate two different ways, but that's just my mind wandering. Do it your way, and I look forward to seeing those neonates..
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>>Regards...Terry
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>>Conserving reptiles by helping to protect habitat...
>>www.ratsnakehaven.com
>>www.scenicsantaritas.org

Thanks Terry. I'm going to keep this clutch in the new incubator/tank setup. I might try the maternal incubation some day, but not this year. I don't like to split up clutches once they are well glued together.

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-Toby Brock
Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research