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I'm mainly posting here to ask this question: "What do baby green ratsnakes, Senticolis triaspis intermedia, eat?"

I assume some members of this board are triaspis breeders. My young greeny doesn't seem to want pinky mice. Do they tend to eat something else as starter food?

Here's a pic of one...

I haven't raised babies before and only have experience feeding adults and subadults. Those eat mice and birds. It's early on, but I'm thinking young greens may have a different preference and switch over when older. Anyone have experience with this?

Appreciate any responses.. thanks..

Terry Cox/Ratsnake Haven
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Hey, TC,
My little experience here would hazard a GUESS at young Sceloporous, but I did have a young male Green that ate day old quail like candy.
Of course, if there was ever something comparable to a "doggy treat" in Rat Snakes, I'd vote for quail hatchlings.
Some of mine, like "intermontana" show sudden aggression to eating when an occasional quail is given.
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Regards, Bill McGighan

>>Hey, TC,
>>My little experience here would hazard a GUESS at young Sceloporous, but I did have a young male Green that ate day old quail like candy.
>>Of course, if there was ever something comparable to a "doggy treat" in Rat Snakes, I'd vote for quail hatchlings.
>>Some of mine, like "intermontana" show sudden aggression to eating when an occasional quail is given.
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>>Regards, Bill McGighan

Some of the Asian ratsnakes were really into bird hatchlings and eggs too. Thanks, Bill. I'm going to try lizards soon and see what happens. I'll be gone for a week, but will let you all know.

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>>I'm mainly posting here to ask this question: "What do baby green ratsnakes, Senticolis triaspis intermedia, eat?"
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>>I assume some members of this board are triaspis breeders. My young greeny doesn't seem to want pinky mice. Do they tend to eat something else as starter food?
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>>Here's a pic of one...
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>>I haven't raised babies before and only have experience feeding adults and subadults. Those eat mice and birds. It's early on, but I'm thinking young greens may have a different preference and switch over when older. Anyone have experience with this?
>>
>>Appreciate any responses.. thanks..
>>
>>Terry Cox/Ratsnake Haven
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>>Conserving reptiles by helping to protect habitat...
>>www.ratsnakehaven.com
>>www.scenicsantaritas.org

Nice little triaspis, Terry. Sorry, no experience with babies yet. Have you tried talking to Gerold Merker about them? Since he has successfully bred them in captivity, he surely would have good info on getting the babies to eat.

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-Toby Brock
Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

>>>>I'm mainly posting here to ask this question: "What do baby green ratsnakes, Senticolis triaspis intermedia, eat?"
>>>>
>>>>I assume some members of this board are triaspis breeders. My young greeny doesn't seem to want pinky mice. Do they tend to eat something else as starter food?
>>>>
>>>>Here's a pic of one...
>>>>
>>>>I haven't raised babies before and only have experience feeding adults and subadults. Those eat mice and birds. It's early on, but I'm thinking young greens may have a different preference and switch over when older. Anyone have experience with this?
>>>>
>>>>Appreciate any responses.. thanks..
>>>>
>>>>Terry Cox/Ratsnake Haven
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>>>>Conserving reptiles by helping to protect habitat...
>>>>www.ratsnakehaven.com
>>>>www.scenicsantaritas.org
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>>Nice little triaspis, Terry. Sorry, no experience with babies yet. Have you tried talking to Gerold Merker about them? Since he has successfully bred them in captivity, he surely would have good info on getting the babies to eat.
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>>-Toby Brock
>>Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

Thanks, Toby. I'll give that a try.

TC
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To my knowledge, Gerold has only hatched one single baby triaspis, but he's still a good resource, no doubt.

Dave Katz and Gregg Feaster have both hatched multiple clutches. From my own research, captive-bred hatchlings are very good mousers (on pinks, of course), but I'm sure they'd do fine with the occasional Uta or quail chick too, as was mentioned already. I'd imagine Uta stansburiana, Eumeces obsoletus, Eumeces callicephalus, Coleonyx variegatus bogerti, and Hyla arenicolor are hatchling's natural food items.

Dusty

Suboc.com

>>To my knowledge, Gerold has only hatched one single baby triaspis, but he's still a good resource, no doubt.
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>>Dave Katz and Gregg Feaster have both hatched multiple clutches. From my own research, captive-bred hatchlings are very good mousers (on pinks, of course), but I'm sure they'd do fine with the occasional Uta or quail chick too, as was mentioned already. I'd imagine Uta stansburiana, Eumeces obsoletus, Eumeces callicephalus, Coleonyx variegatus bogerti, and Hyla arenicolor are hatchling's natural food items.
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>>Dusty
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>>Suboc.com

Thanks, Dusty. Not much info in the field guides. I was thinking lizards might be the ticket, if they wouldn't take pinks. We'll see what happens. More later...

Terry

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Terry, I would try the scenting with lizards first,I have no experience with greens, but it would save you a good deal of time and grief, just my thoughts.
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Todd Hughes

>>Terry, I would try the scenting with lizards first,I have no experience with greens, but it would save you a good deal of time and grief, just my thoughts.
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>>Todd Hughes

Todd, I'm finding out that green rats don't like lizards after all. They should take pinks soon. Will keep ya's posted.

TC
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peromyscus or wild mice pinks or at least scenting with them.... has proven successful with these guys.

Scott John Reptiles

>>peromyscus or wild mice pinks or at least scenting with them.... has proven successful with these guys.
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>>Scott John Reptiles

Thanks, Scott. That's a great idea, and I'll give it a try.

TC

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Are you keeping the snake on paper towels with a hide box and water dish? If so, you might want to switch the snake to a substrate it can burrow in. Often times individuals will do well when their basic, minimal requirements are met. However some individuals reqire a bit more in order to settle into a captive environment. Food for thought, i hope it helps. Kevin

>>Are you keeping the snake on paper towels with a hide box and water dish? If so, you might want to switch the snake to a substrate it can burrow in. Often times individuals will do well when their basic, minimal requirements are met. However some individuals reqire a bit more in order to settle into a captive environment. Food for thought, i hope it helps. Kevin

That's good advice, Kevin. In this case I think it's the food items, but I'll try to create better habitat, if they still refuse food down the line.

TC

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