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snakes and learning update

FR May 06, 2009 03:40 PM

This coachwhip has continued to feed on its own, everyday. Its patterns are starting to become apparent. She comes up in the mourning and sits with only her head out. Then moves under some boards to gain heat, then back to where it hunts from.

Today, its already crawling up my leg. It it this three times yesterday.

Also yesterday, both rattlesnakes feed.


Well back to more training. Hmmmmmmmmmmm is this learning?

Next attempt, up to my waist, hahahahahahahahaha Cheers

Replies (12)

JYohe May 06, 2009 06:23 PM

stick a live hopper rat under your hat...

tell her it's Easter...hunt for it....

....here kitty kitty kitty.......

....must be nice....I lived here 25 years....

0 snakes,liz,frog,toad,etc etc etc

all I got....never see them...voles,peromyscus,house mice,rats,..see...squirrel,rabbit,and if the woodchuck comes back and messes with my ferns again....BBQ time....

......nice coachwhip.....
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bizkit421 May 06, 2009 10:06 PM

BBQ'd woodchuck does not sound appetizing.... However my mom makes an excellent squirrel pot pie... just gotta watch she got all the shotgun bb's out of them or you'll break a tooth...
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~Maggie~

"Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious."
1.1 Cal Kings (Spot and Fry)
1.0 Florida King (Gamble)
1.0 Ball Python (Mitch)
0.1 Red Belly Piranha (Fluffy)
1.0 Australian Shepherd (Spooky)
1.0 Springer Spaniel/Beagle mix (Snoopy)
0.1 Cat (Ecco)

JYohe May 07, 2009 06:53 PM

you eat furry tailed tree/yard rats but don't want to eat furry road mumps???

/same thing......rodentia is rodentia....

try muskrat sometime....mmmmmmm good ....

rabbit is best (but not a rodent)....

beaver is too "beeflike"....but very good...

.....meat's meat.........(ceptin them 'possums, they done stinks)...

have fun........
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bizkit421 May 07, 2009 07:04 PM

lol... my mom just informed me that I have eaten groundhog, I just didn't know it at the time, but I think I'll stick to little fuzzy bunnies and tree rats...
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~Maggie~

"Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious."
1.1 Cal Kings (Spot and Fry)
1.0 Florida King (Gamble)
1.0 Ball Python (Mitch)
0.1 Red Belly Piranha (Fluffy)
1.0 Australian Shepherd (Spooky)
1.0 Springer Spaniel/Beagle mix (Snoopy)
0.1 Cat (Ecco)

JYohe May 09, 2009 08:40 AM

tell your mother I laughed.....

...furry road bumps are good eats.....little par boil with onion ,thrown on grill, BBQ sauce alot...thrown in cooler and left awhile, they melt off the bones....

haven't actually had that in decades....and I can still taste it....mmmmmm

.....your mom is cool.....hahahahaaaaaa.....

.....my kid ate stuff before she wouldn't eat now....ask your mother to make racoon and saurkraut.......add some taders,,,,350 for 3 - 3 1/2 hrs or more.......

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bizkit421 May 09, 2009 08:55 AM

lol... I think I'll pass on the 'coon n kraut... I'm not a huge fan of rotten cabbage....

Mom might wanna try it though....
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~Maggie~

"Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious."
1.1 Cal Kings (Spot and Fry)
1.0 Florida King (Gamble)
1.0 Ball Python (Mitch)
0.1 Red Belly Piranha (Fluffy)
1.0 Australian Shepherd (Spooky)
1.0 Springer Spaniel/Beagle mix (Snoopy)
0.1 Cat (Ecco)

Spankenstyne May 06, 2009 10:00 PM

Haha very nice. Really enjoying following this as it progresses & the pictures are great. Just worried about the waist high part, coachwhips are always so cranky looking.

Br8knitOFF May 07, 2009 07:31 AM

Frank,
I look forward to your posts/updates daily!

Keep 'em coming- love it!

Thanks!
//Todd

FR May 07, 2009 09:17 AM

After I posted the above pics. The coachwhip fed off my shoulder. Its impossible for me to take pics of that, hahahahahahahahahaha my ears tinkled too much, hahahahahahahaha.

After that, it became a little wary and would take food, but was a little reluctant. So I backed off and will start over.

A little history, in the past I have done with with a number of species, only two individuals worked out well. A roadrunner and a magisters spiny. Both stayed for 8 years and become very close. Both would come and sit with me or on me. Even when full and just to be around. Often sitting near me when I am working in the shop.

Doing this I was able to watch both pair up, nest and reproduce naturally many many many times. I have millions of pics of these two.

So far, snakes have not formed that type of bond. The diamondbacks have been close. As of yet, I have only seen feeding behavior. Althought, a male diamondback was seen with one of two that visit regularly. Also, with all the species, its females that become friendly, not males. They will come and feed, but they tend to keep a certain distance.

We do feed lots of gophersnakes, but they have not become regulars. They will feed for a week or two, then they stop. Also, they tended to be more regular in the winter. In the summer, one feeding and they do not return. They stay around, they just don't return to the same place to feed.

So when I got a coachwhip to return, I was very interested as they are a snake with a high metabolism. This means, you can practice conditioning at a much better level.

Last fall, there were a pair of coachwhips, so far this spring, I have only seen the one. But, the pair are so similiar in color pattern and size. It was confusing in the fall. I did get close up pics of their heads to tell them apart.

Anyway, this coachwhip has fed 5 days in a row. Its now in a habit of sticking its head out in the mourning, then waiting for a while, then moving to some AC to heat up, then moves back into its hole and waits for me. As I mentioned, even if its not out, it will come out as soon as I open the door. So it has not only "learned" to recognize me by sight, but also by sound(vibration) This I find very interesting.

Also, so far, it never exposes its body to sun, EVER. It does expose its head.

ALso again, the hole this coachwhip is staying in, has another very large coachwhip. I find a huge shed coming out of the hole, once or twice a year. I have only seen that individual twice in 8 years.

More later. Cheers

thomas davis May 07, 2009 02:29 PM

man that is soooooo cool. i want to come feed the wild snakes. hell id clean the mouse house for a week just for that experience alone! as always AWSOME STUFF FR thanks for postin.
,,,,,,,,,,thomas davis
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antelope May 07, 2009 11:01 PM

frank, I think you could set up some bungalos in the back and make a tidy profit!!.
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Todd Hughes

CrimsonKing May 08, 2009 04:25 AM

He has you trained well.

:Mark
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