I heard some atrox breeder got nailed? Anyone know who that was?
-----
Herp Conservation Unlimited
Mexicana Group Directory
Photography by Joseph E. Forks
Welcome to kingsnake.com's message board system. Here you may share and discuss information with others about your favorite reptile and amphibian related topics such as care and feeding, caging requirements, permits and licenses, and more. Launched in 1997, the kingsnake.com message board system is one of the oldest and largest systems on the internet.
I heard some atrox breeder got nailed? Anyone know who that was?
-----
Herp Conservation Unlimited
Mexicana Group Directory
Photography by Joseph E. Forks
Yes I know who, he posts here and I will let him tell if he wishes.I just hope he recovers well.These things seem to get to much bad press .Bites happen and can happen to any one who is involved with venomous snakes.I doubt it was anything but a small mistake and the snake siezed the moment.
-----
Archie Bottoms
As Archie said, it can happen to anyone. This one is a friend of mine and thankfully, will make a full recovery. It's an inherent risk we all take and must be willing to accept.
>>thanks
>>-----
>>Herp Conservation Unlimited
>>Mexicana Group Directory
>>Photography by Joseph E. Forks
-----
Rob Carmichael, Curator
The Wildlife Discovery Center at Elawa Farm
Lake Forest, IL
"It's an inherent risk we all take and must be willing to accept."
That's true, but it helps when we wear shoes! LOL!
Randal Berry
Randal you are bad.
-----
Archie Bottoms
But truthful. Anyone ever working with venomous with me it's MANDATORY to wear shoes. I always had strict policies regarding working with venomous and shoes were one of them. The most important was NEVER service the cage for ANY reason without removing and securing the snake first. David had the ONLY venomous bite ever sustained at my business while removing a water bowl with a Stilleto Snake still in it. That was our ONLY venomous bite in over 30 years albiet a bad one. He lost half of his right index finger as a result not to mention his unbearable pain. I really felt sorry for him. I talked to him last year and he said he has phantom pain even now well over 10 years later...
-----
Tom Crutchfield
www.tomcrutchfield.com
Tom I remember when that happend.On your list you always mentioned Davids favorite or something next to the price of that snake.
-----
Archie Bottoms
Yup, we always had a sick sense of humor. Randal used to get ragged on for whining...Just joking Randal..lol[not really]
-----
Tom Crutchfield
www.tomcrutchfield.com
My favorite was the perfect gift for your mother in law a tiapan.I did not care for my mother in law.
-----
Archie Bottoms
Of course Silent Night Adders at Christmas and Emperor Scorpions as stocking stuffers...
-----
Tom Crutchfield
www.tomcrutchfield.com
and..Waglers Vipers..perfect Xmas tree ornaments.
Randal
Tom was right about the protocol we had at the shop while working venomous snakes. Shoe's HAD to be worn. Here's a picture of one of Tom's shoes that I took when I worked there. I think he lost the other one from a narrow escape of a crocodile charging him. Anyway, he hasn't seen it since.
Randal

Those days before ballpythonmania man I miss them.When a snake was high dollar at 250 bucks not 35,000.
-----
Archie Bottoms
You are both right, shoes are a given.Complacentey in your own snake room can lead to death and has.Protocalls in place at all times is what keeps us alive.I have a viridis that has this plan to kill me and tries every time I Am in its cage.My wife begs me to get rid of it .I tell her it keeps me from becomeing complacent and to always follow protocalls.ps love the shoe lol.
-----
Archie Bottoms
Randal, I'll trade you your panties back for my shoe....
-----
Tom Crutchfield
www.tomcrutchfield.com
Just how are you going to explain that your in possession
of my underwear? hmmmmm?
Randal
Still waiting, Tom. LOL
-----
Venomous snakes---best hobby on earth!
Ok Bill...enough!
LOL!
Randal
David and he had an argument and David gave them to me to give back and Randal cried and ran away...
-----
Tom Crutchfield
www.tomcrutchfield.com
Help, tips & resources quick links
Manage your user and advertising accounts
Advertising and services purchase quick links