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Goini ??

stevep May 10, 2009 07:41 AM

I've seen a few high orange babies for sale. Will they retain any of that orange as adults??

Thanks

Steve

Replies (14)

Tony D May 10, 2009 07:49 AM

usually not. The blaze line holds it better but even there it is not assured.
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“Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind.” Emmerson

CrimsonKing May 10, 2009 09:01 AM

The blaze does hold it a bit better but some people I know have been working with a line that holds the color much longer into adulthood.
Maybe Zenny will read this and post a rather red one he has from that guy.
I think it's a young adult and still very colorful?
I've lost the breeder male that was the genisis of this I believe and it will be at least a year before I get the hold backs up and running.
It's strange with the goini. One year I'm into a colorful look and then again I like the wild more subdued look the following year.
Keeps it interesting, I guess.
:Mark
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antelope May 11, 2009 12:09 AM

I like the one I got from you Mark that has NO red at all.
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Todd Hughes

CrimsonKing May 11, 2009 03:59 AM

Me too. Let's see a recent photo?
:Mark
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antelope May 11, 2009 10:31 PM

I need to work up all the eastern type kings I got, the stripers are doing great, the two sister goini are like night and day, totally different personalities and looks. I'll get some pics up.
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Todd Hughes

ZFelicien May 10, 2009 07:50 PM

Generally "high orange" goini fade dramatically into adulthood.

I have a male from Mark K. "Crimsonking" that has held a fair amount of color.

I think i know which goini you are referring to... was it a lone photo of a really ORANGE hatchling (orange head pattern as well)? if so it looks like goini x Brooksi cross.

Unless you saw the Het Blaze from TonyD... those are NICE!!! and being het blaze they are a great project.

Here's my male from Mark.

~ZF

Tony D May 11, 2009 07:49 AM

Z that snake rocks! ONe of the great misteries to me is that nobody has snapped up that rio you. If it goes on much longer I may loose my will power and keep that group too!
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“Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind.” Emmerson

ZFelicien May 11, 2009 07:38 PM

Yeah i really like this male... he will not touch my blaze female at all... i can't understand it?!

I'll just leave them together all season.

About your trio:
After raising snake to a certain size, you might as well keep um... especially when it's something like this (improving a morph)... At least you'll be the 1st to see all your hard work pay off.

~Z

CrimsonKing May 11, 2009 09:54 PM

"he will not touch my blaze female at all"
maybe he's defective....better send him back.
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

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ZFelicien May 12, 2009 02:24 PM

"maybe he's defective....better send him back."

More like he's intimidated... my blaze female is pretty large compared to this male... he was running away from her at 1st, now he just wont "touch" her.

either way this is too good of a project to let go

~Z

stevep May 12, 2009 07:24 PM

np

Tony D May 13, 2009 12:39 PM

Z to be honest I think I would try line breeding the outlandishly most excellent red female first. Looks to me like that animl could be a morph of sorts in its own right.
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“Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind.” Emmerson

stevep May 12, 2009 08:34 AM

Tony

I remember looking at that trio. Can you send the pictures to me along with what a nice adult blaze looks like?

spisarchik@hotmail.com

Thanks

Steve

Tony D May 12, 2009 09:34 AM

Here are two that I think are average. These came straight from GCR. Other's are a generation or so ahead of me breeding this trait into other high red lines.

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