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so i am mainly a ball python guy but i had a pair of corn snakes i purchased a year ago or so. i decided to part with them cause thier rack caught fire (no snakes were harmed... just two halfway melted tubs) and i had no more room for the corns. i sold both of them for REALLY cheap (20$ for both) and when the guy came over i went to pull both of them out she was in the middle of laying eggs lol, she already laid 6 of them and so i picked her up and felt her and put her back then she laid two more. the guy took her home about 2 hours away and she laid 10 more. so heres my question, i know little about corns and here are the parents
male

female now

my question is i was told the male is a crimson but looks like a creamcicle hypo or somthing..... i dont really know and also if she is just a normal oakatee then what will the outcome of the babbies be? i have 7 of them cooking and guy i sold the pair to has the rest.... boy he got a DEAL!!!

Not sure what the male is...could be creamsicle or just a really nice amel... or butter maybe? Crimsons I think are redder, but not really familiar with that morph.

However, as the female is Okeetee (basically a normal phase) offspring probably all be normals, and het amel or whatever recessive genetics made the male. (maybe double hets). Assuming of course the female doesn't have hets herself..that are compatible with those of the male.

I think creamsicles are just nice looking amels, bred specifically to have a specific look but are basically amelanistic. Thus, if I am right, the babies will all be het amel.
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PHLdyPayne

>>Not sure what the male is...could be creamsicle or just a really nice amel... or butter maybe? Crimsons I think are redder, but not really familiar with that morph.
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>>However, as the female is Okeetee (basically a normal phase) offspring probably all be normals, and het amel or whatever recessive genetics made the male. (maybe double hets). Assuming of course the female doesn't have hets herself..that are compatible with those of the male.
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>>I think creamsicles are just nice looking amels, bred specifically to have a specific look but are basically amelanistic. Thus, if I am right, the babies will all be het amel.
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actually creamsicle denotes emoryi rat snake in the mix.
a creamsicle is a corn/emoryi mix expressing the corn snake form of amelanism

it's hard to tell without knowing what the parents are but he does look like a creamsicle to me.
Without knowing the females genetics it is best just to call her a very nice normal.
So breed the creamsicle to the normal and you will get normals het amel. As I said earlier the creamsicle carries the corn snake form of amelanism.
Ok, so normals het amel.....BUT...with a lot of corns you can have hidden hets, especialy amelanism. So, there is a decent chance that the female could be het amel. If that is the case, there could actually be normals and amels in the clutch.

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Right, I always get creamsicles and candy cane's mixed up...sorry for the confusion.
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PHLdyPayne

first off thanks for the reply and second.. well half the eggs were rolling around b4 i found her so will the eggs hatch if they rolled around even if it was within a hour or two?

If they rolled a bit right after they were layed, they should be ok.

Regardless, I would try to hatch them. I'll wager that they'll work out for you.

Crimsons have black pupils. Perhaps that was already mentioned, but I read the posts too quickly to catch it.
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