hi i have been out of the reptile world for a few years(joined the marines had to sell all my snakes) anyways i am in the process of getting my collection going again. i want to start with pines, so here is my question... i would like to either get a pair of blacks, or northerns or southerns, and i am wondering statisticly, which of the three mentioned subspecies usually obtains the largest size?( length, girth and so on) i used to have a few northerns way back and i have had bulls and great basins around since i could walk, so technically i am not new to this but would still like some info from the pit veterans out there. thanks alot. and good luck this season!
max
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southern and northern pines
sdmf31
May 15, 2009 12:12 AM
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Pine_Snake_Piney
May 15, 2009 08:54 PM
Welcome back to the dark side, and thank you for your service to our country!!
I am partial to northern pines, myself 
Good luck!!
jcherry
May 18, 2009 05:51 PM
We have been keeping pits for a little over 35 years now. And we dearly love them all and keep most of them. But the Northerns and the Bulls are our addiction. LOL
As far as length they are really about the same when you get the northerns from New Jersey Strains and Bulls from the South Texas area. With the bulls being a little heavier in relationship to length in our experience.
While occasionally you will see giants in any species. Both average around 7' and are huge animals. It never ceases to amaze me the number of 8'+ animals you here about only to have them shrink when faced with a measuring tape to a really heavy bodied solid 6 1/2' - 7'+ animals that is indeed a huge animal, but nowhere near 8'+.
