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Het silver eastern clutch

scott_felzer May 19, 2009 11:42 PM

One of the het females had a small clutch, one silver female and 7 poss het silvers. Interesting thing is that the silver trait is very high male and appears to be a gender related trait however this female is the second female ever produced. Last year's female passed away shortly after birth, hopefully this girl will make it. Top pic is of an adult male, second is the 09 female and 3rd is of the 66% poss hets.

Scott

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Albino Garter Snake

Replies (5)

scott_felzer May 19, 2009 11:45 PM

This is a pretty good shot of his eyes, which are pink. After much discussion w/ various garter people, the overall concensus seems to be that it is a hypo.

Scott

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Albino Garter Snake

JYohe May 20, 2009 06:15 PM

Hmmmmmm......think lavender cornsnake genes??? might be same thing (garter of course though)....

cool......breed silver to amel and see if you get pink snows?...(like opal corns)....

.....nice snake......

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asnakelovinbabe May 21, 2009 04:50 PM

I didn't even think about that, but yes, it does appear to be very similar to the lavender corn snakes!!! my guess is that I somehow think it's more than simply a hypo Scott, because hypo removes melanin to some degree, but not color itself. In fact most of the time a hypomelanistic animal is actually more colorful than a normal because the colors show through the reduced levels of melanin better. which would not explain how the snake is lacking all of it's brown/red/yellow pigments. Just my speculation!!! whatever the case it's one of my favorite morphs out there... can't wait for my pair of double het silver/ west virginia anery!

boxienuts May 21, 2009 06:55 PM

Big congrats on producing a female Scott, I know how much that means to you.
I does actually look similar to the lavander corn, which some describe as and anery with a reduction in melanin as well.
I agree that the term hypo is generally used as short for hypomelanistic. This snake appears to have reduced xanthin,erythrin, and melanin. Silver is it's name, which describes it just fine, but I would like to suggest that perhaps a technical way to describe it would be "hypochromanistic". Because it is reduced color pigmentation in general, yet not elimination of a group or all pigments. Alternatively it could be described as a "hypomelanistic anerythristic", or a hypomelanistic axanthic, but then people would call it hypo anery or hypo axanthic for short, which is confusing because it sounds like reduced anery or axanthic effect, so "hypochromanistic" seems easier to relate and less confusing.
Just suggestions for thought.
Again big congrats Scott, I will be interesting to see how this gene interacts with others, and the future combos it will produce regardless of how it is described or classified.
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Jeff Benfer
gartersnakemorph.com

Scott_felzer May 23, 2009 02:57 PM

Thanks for the input. I Do believe that this morph and the anerythristic will be key in creating new designer morphs in the future. The silver has proved out to be recessive, still working on proving out the anery.

Scott
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Albino Garter Snake

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