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I got my first litter yesterday and not knowing, first thing I did was remove all the babies. I should have pulled mom and let the babies stay in the sack for a few days to absorb the egg and let them come out themselves. Well, I helped them out of the sacks right after birth and now I noticed a bunch of them have the cord, along with other bloody things, attached to the bellies. I understand they get pulled into the bellies and sometimes you have to tie them off. Well, since yesterday morning I already lost 9 of the babies all having the stomach still open from the cord. And the 2 with spinal issues Im sure are not going to make it either. I now must be tying them off cause I dont want to loose anymore of the babies, esp the mots. I cant beleive how simple my intial mistake was and the outcome. How do I tie off. This is what the bellies look like. This is a pic of the only albino in the litter and it has a major spinal problem. I dont expect the albino to make it.

Here is what the spinal problem looks like on the little albino. I understand that with life comes death. I dont think it will make it and not sure how it is going to digest food.

Here is a pic of the 2nd animal with spinal problems. Its a hypo mot. Again, dont see how he can make it. I feel so sad for these little fellas. Sorry for the graphic pic.

That I m sorry to hear about that. I have no known knowledge
other than what people tell me, but I do not know first hand.
Hope all is well
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Kenny Bowman

"Symetry Exotics"
Honesty is my only way, you dont like it? Sorry!

I think it would be more humaine to to just put the snakes with the spinal problems down. Those are way to extreme. Tie the cords off with dental floss on the others.Good luck I know that must be heart breaking for a first timer.

Call me 608-444-815, I will try to help.
Baker's Boas

sorry, 608-444-8155
Baker's Boas

I am not sure what to tell you as I have never bred before, but I hope for the best for the little ones. I thougnt it was okay to pull them from the sac?
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1.2 Longicauda
1.1 Silverbacks
0.1 S.B. Amarali
1.1 Centalians
2.2 Pituophis
1.0 Dumerils
0.1 Irian Jaya
1.2 Hog Isles

A lot depends on how full term they are. Full term with no yolk at all left is fine to pull them. With yolk still showing is best to let them absorb. And to be 100% clear, by yolk I mean the whiteish opaque blob, not the clear yellow stuff.

A little anatomy....

Coming out of the snake is an umbilical cord to the yolk. Has larger blood vessels between the two. Out of the yolk are a series of smaller vessels going to the outer membrane. You can see those smaller blood vessels in this pic...

In a full term baby all that's left of the yolk is a small nodule.

When necessary to help a baby that is on the move, I will seperate the smaller vessels and sack from the nodule leaving the umbilical and nodule intact. This lessens the blood loss that can come from tearing the umbilical before it's ready.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

I think there is a misunderstanding between tearing the sack and forcing a boa out of it. I have on occasion created an opening in the sack to assist the boa in it but I have never forced a boa out of it. Hopefully the remaining the boas will survive, good luck!

give me a call if you don't get help....DON'T PANIC.

Ryan DeCaro
908-209-0096