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How about a big thumbs up for Oby. Let's give him a hand.
Ouch! Did you see that? Wishing him well.
jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

What happened to Oby? Nothing bad I hope....
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Tom Crutchfield
www.tomcrutchfield.com

I'll PM you.
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

me too, please
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Todd Hughes

I got a little careless in compositin of my birthday blog, thats all.. so things got a little bloody, but the good doc stitched me up really nice. ^_^
attaching url below
regards
oby
my blog

I know a lot of people have been concerned. Didn't know if you'd be here in person to tell us about it or not. Thought you might have been banned. chuckle...chuckle.
jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

I´m here mate, haven´t been banned as far as I know. That would have been truly sad. Kingsnake has come to be one of my favotite sites in the US.
I was just trying to give you guys some space, licking my wounds after the massacre in debate over at the BLBC. ^_^

cheers
oby

Good to hear . I thought maybe you had a cross country skiing accident or got injured in the pit at a black metal show. Killer whale bite , hit be a glacier ................Norway stuff.

Ernie Eison
WESTWOOD ACRES REPTILE FARM INC.

Oby, glad you're o.k. You don't need a lot of thumbs anyway....
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Tom Crutchfield
www.tomcrutchfield.com

You´re right dude, thumbs are maybe overrated. ^_^
Next week I won´t be here much cuz I´m going out fishing.
You need to get your fishing gear and your flyppy floppies and join in if you like fishing!
Next week is Unofficial Global AR Fishing Week 2009.
Spread the word around the world.
The sponsors guarantee fantastic prizes if enough folks join in!
Preservation of rights, a boost to the economy and better concervation of biodiversity are only a few of the prices society could win if you participate.

Are you on a boat?
First find bait!
Then start fishing!
Go go yay!
It´s fun AND it´s good for nature!
What you find next week you must share with someone, or preferably the whole world in order to win.
The world will only change under mild pressure and that´s where vikings come in, to provide mild pressure towards a better conservation vision.
Be a viking next week, go out on a fihing trip.
Win big prizes for your children to keep.
If no one passes around the woud about the fishing contest though.. this is where it ends.
on a boat..

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUeOKfXFZaQ
youtube video

Yeah, that's how they roll down in Florida, too.
Habitat preservation, grass roots participation, and an intelligent discussion. That's what I like.
Thanks for posting that one.
jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

Fighting against animal rights is a dirty business but someone's got to do it. Fighting against animal rights is fighting for conservation, and for survival of biodiversity, and for cultural diversity, and for sustainability, and for inter species companionship.

If you are ugly like me, why not join in?

oby
It´s gota hurt a little bit

Yeah, that's what you said when you sawed off your thumb, while crafting your concept prototype of an eco-functional biodiverse microhabitat in the name of conservation and animal companion's rights.
Three cheers for the unrepentant, unabashed Norse Warrior!
jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

Yeah, that's what you said when you sawed off your thumb, while crafting your concept prototype of an eco-functional biodiverse microhabitat in the name of conservation and animal companion's rights.
Three cheers for the unrepentant, unabashed Norse Warrior!
jsc

I´m not asking you to chop your thumbs off mate, save that for later!
We need to get more used to handling them vipers though, cause time is kinda getting short on us these days..
Link below, vikings guide to handling vipers, don´t get bitten.

oby
norse viper handlin

That sure does look like the snake you're handling in your photo. I understand they do have a calm demeanor. Did I call it right on that photo?
jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

Dude, show some respect!
To you all snakes may look the same but they are really individuals!
Norwegians love them cause they be good medicine for potency.
Put a viper on your wang to grow a throbbing super wong for super long!
Chicks dig it. ^_^
oby

Was it the broadsword or battle ax that cut the thumb? Perhaps a slip as he was blocking a blow from a team of AR ninja's sent for purposes of silencing Oby? Let us know Oby.....
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Tom Crutchfield
www.tomcrutchfield.com

Mmz..
Colonel, Sir, I think it was due to a slip of he tongue.
You know, when you stick your head out and put on a big smile, it´stempting for the AR to take a big swing after you to decapitate the grin off your face.
Sometimes scary [bleep] surface up in the papers. Just earlier today a dog got kicked to death by a 50 year old man in Oslo. Apparently the dog was on a leash the hole time. On the Pic, police and the dog in a plastic bag.
- http://www.nettavisen.no/innenriks/article2635795.ece

Terrible things happen in the world these days.
"Tiger mauls NZ zoo keeper to death
"...Despite desperate efforts by his colleague the tiger would not let go of Mr Mncube, who died at the scene before an ambulance arrived at the park. "

That´s from yesterday. I covered that in my blog also;
- http://www.[bleep]/blog/view/id_2814/title_Size-matters-in-companionship/

mmz..
With all this suffering around us I´m tempted to sign the no kill bill;
- http://nokillbill.homestead.com/index.html
what do you guys think of that one?
They got a blog too;
- http://www.squidoo.com/NoKillBill

Do you suppose the no kill bill is good for domestic reptiles?
regards
oby

JOIN THE CRUSADE>>> HSUS (JOIN THE CRUSADE)

source;
- http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/pet/1194264352.html

Date: 2009-05-28, 7:43PM PDT

'Join the Crusade against HSUS Pass it Forward'

CA AB1122: WHY HSUS DOESN’T WANT “TRANSFERS” OF ANIMALS
April 19, 2009 · 1 Comment
How does HSUS Work Against Pets Owners?

HSUS passes laws (HSUS has almost 200 laws for this year) then uses those laws for cases it plans to bring forward, then uses those cases in their incremental process to bring down both interstate commerce and pet ownership, kennels, pet stores, dog breeders, along with difficulties for agriculture and other animals.

We can guarantee that the CA Prop 2 (battery cages) will come back to haunt us in pet ownership, or farming. HSUS will probably find some other ways to outlaw farm animals or make a huge problem for farming–after all HSUS right NOW is trying to outlaw all “non-native” species including birds, herps,guineas,ferrets, turtles and many other common species in the USA that have been owned for 50-100 years.

Ownership in the law, is of the highest legal nature, and as a concept, usually means the ultimate control over the item owned. It also usually refers to having the control legally over such item (property) and also the right to use it for as long as is allowed in the law, and in many instances, to bring a lawsuit where the owner’s rights are affected. Guardianship does NOT necessarily mean any of the same things, which is why animal rights prefers it over “owner.”

CA law has statutes that show one of the main incidents of ownership in property, is the right to TRANSFER it (Bias v Ohio Farmers Indemnity Co (1938) 28 Cal.App.2d 14,16). Or, “A common characteristic of a property right, is that it may be disposed of, transferred to another.” (Douglas Aircraft Co. v Byram (1943) 57 Cal.App.2d 311, 317)

Thefore we can see why Peta wanted to take possession/ownership of different animals because after they owned them, they could just dispose of them in the garbage dump (after killing them via lethal injection)—and they suffered no consequences. [Actually it appeared there was fraud in the procurement of the animals but we don't know if they were hit for that.]

And, we can see why HSUS doesn’t want animals TRANSFERRED to others because that’s an element of OWNERSHIP.

The obvious next step for HSUS is to claim if animals can’t be sold or transferred, then that means THEY ARE NOT PROPERTY.

HSUS is currently trying to outlaw the use (import, export, transport, breeding) or movement in interstate commerce of any non native species via HR669 in Congress by using the Lacey Act. See the PIJAC website for details, or see the post on this site with the link to PIJAC.

read the rest of the story at;
- http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/pet/1194264352.html

Perhaps we here in America should sponsor responsible legislation creating an overall standard of ownership rights and responsibilities (as in current acceptable standards and practices) to which AR groups will be unable to effectively challenge.
Just a thought.
jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

In other words, an irrevocable BILL of RIGHTS for those that choose to keep and/or maintain pets, companion animals, display animals, etc.
jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

?,,,,,thomas davis
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