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Any florida king breeders out there doing any straight hillsborough county sulfur to hillsborough county sulfur florida king breedings. I see a lot of florida kings with sulfur in the mix but no one seems to be producing plain old sulfurs.
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Randy Whittington

The Hillsboruoh co sulfurs are not like the original sulfur male that Len Krycso had. That male was amazing.
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www.Bluerosy.com

It appears their not so "common" after all.
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Randy Whittington

Randy,
I don't think you are understanding about the history of the sulfurs or what we mean when we refer to sulfur. It is a high yellow phenotype. Not a neccsarily a locale and not a reccessive trait.

Yes they do exsist in the wild and yes sulfury looking individuals have been found in Hillsborogh co. But the true original sulfur was from a single specimen. . There are lot of lavender sulfurs out there and normals a anh het. lavender sulfurs. All depends on what your pick is and what you want.Example... If you want a Eastern king from Dekalb county, GA, then there are not too many people who keep them. But are they rare? NO.

Check out the search function and type in sulfur.
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www.Bluerosy.com

I think I'm aware or aware enough to know what I'm looking for at least. My understanding is like you said that their was only one or two that had the incredible orange/ yellow color that started the line. I'm not sure if Len, Mike and Doug or whoever started the line with the origional one but my understanding is that they were from hillsborough county.
Again I'm just wondering if anyone is breeding ones from the origional one or two (sulfur colored) that started the incredible color that are not mixing them with anerys, hypos, albinos or whatever else.
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Randy Whittington

forums.kingsnake.com/viewarch.php?id=1439190,1439190&key=2007

forums.kingsnake.com/viewarch.php?id=1403278,1403278&key=2007
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www.Bluerosy.com

forums.kingsnake.com/viewarch.php?id=1359676,1359676&key=2007
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www.Bluerosy.com

And more than just a few have been found. I know a few of the original collectors and have seen some of the actual wild caughts, and I own an F1 offspring from the male Rainer is referring to.

The name "sulfur" was first used by Len Krysko to market his high-yellow Florida kings from Hillsborough County. So all true sulfurs are Hillsborough County animals, and anything that isn't Hillsborough County locale is just borrowing the name.

The best yellow FL kings were supposed to have come Polk County, right next to Hillsborough.

I was wondering when you would chime in.

I have some pics I need to scan of a trio of F1 sulfurs I had in '98 from Len. I will post them tommorow.

BTW I sold those HUGE adults for only $200. on the classifieds.
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www.Bluerosy.com

It was busy weekend for me. I read these forums a lot more when I'm working during the week.

I'd love to see pictures of those snakes. I guess now with the Internet being what it is, they're in much higher demand than they were in 1998. In 1998 you had to see one at a reptile show to even know they existed.

Actually the picture says 1998 when they were big adults. But I think I purcahsed them at the orlando expo circa '94-95 as babies. I will get the pics up tommorow eve.
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www.Bluerosy.com

Randy, back in the day I have caught and bought many Florida Kings from Hillsboro County and not all of them are sulpher and in fact I never had one brought in that was. Sometimes an unusually nice example of snakes of any type might turn up anywhere but it doesn't mean the entire population looks like that particular one...thanks
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Tom Crutchfield
www.tomcrutchfield.com

Thanks Tom. I had always heard pretty much that. I had always heard most from the area didn't look nearly that bright but that the one or two that had started the sulfur line were found in hillsborough county.
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Randy Whittington

Randy,
The normal het lavenders are just as nice looking as one that is not het for anything . Why does a het animal bother you? There are plenty of the lavender sulfur hets out there including Brandons stock. I always have some normal looking sulfurs every year and let them go cheap.

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www.Bluerosy.com

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Randy Whittington

I seriously regard a NORMAL- NON-MORPH Sulphur as RARE!!!

i don't think many (if anyone) has a pair of plain-'ol-non-morph Intensely yellow sulphurs.

That being said i think it'll come down to anyone who has outcrossed lines, selectively breeding for that intense yellow (or better!)

I hope to get my outcrossed trio breeding next season. F1's were not what i expected (very nice either way) but like most other things the F2's should be a lot better.

Outcrossed (F1) male:

Brandon's male (the sire):

~Z

Hey Z, your post is pretty much spot on with what I've found since I've been checking around. I've found one person with a pair and they don't think they will be producing any this year.
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Randy Whittington

I might have a small clutch this year. We'll see.
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www.brandonosbornereptiles.com

Thanks Brandon, I sent you an e-mail.
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Randy Whittington

Brandon,
Please keep us posted!!
Sulfurs are the only brooks I have ever even considered purchasing, besides an incredible anery I saw at a show this past Feb., and like Randy, wondered why I didn't see more available.
This has been an informative thread that has answered some of my questions.

Brandon, your sulfur on your site is amazing!

Take care!
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Genesis 1:1

I outcrossed my sulfur male to a white cheek phase female brooks king. I've tried breeding him to my lavender female this year, but so far its a no go.