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Today I came home and checked on the collection as I always do even before emails or snacks.

Unfortunately I came home to a grim sight. The Matriarch of my collection, the first Boa I ever acquired in 2002, the animal known affectionately as "Red" has passed away.

She just delivered her litter 6 days earlier and was the subject of the 99 POS post a few days back. Today was her official due date.

While I'm saddened at the loss of Red, I'm glad she was able to bring her last litter into the world and the remaining 15 are still doing well. This has just made keeping them all that more special.

Best picture I could find;

Thanks
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Jeremy Payne
JB Reptile

1.0 Snow "Kahl"
0.2 Triple Het Moonglow "Kahl"
0.1 Orange Tail Hypo Het Leopard
0.1 Double Het "Sharp" Snow
1.0 Ghost
0.1 Possible Super Hypo
0.1 DH Ghost
1.1 "Kahl" Albino
1.0 Hypomelenistic
1.3 Pastel Hypo
0.1 Suriname/Columbian cross
0.1 Anerthrystic

1.1 Morelia Clastolepis

Very very sorry to here the news Jeremy. She was absoluetly beautful!
I'm such a huge fan of great patterns like hers,she must have
been your Suri/Col cross.

. . . Lar M
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Boas By Klevitz
Boas By Klevitz

Hey Jeremy, that really blows chunks. So sad to lose an aniumal like that. Like you said though, at least she was able to hang on long enough to give some of her offspring just enough of a start in life. Those keepers are all that mpore special.

I'm in a similar situation. My female Pastel CBLT "Candy" passed this weekend. She never recovered from her early litter sevreral weeks back. Mostly slugs and only four babies two of whihc had large yolk sacks. All four babies pulled through with a little TLC. She's also the mother to my 2008 "Reeses Pieces" litter which produced a bunch of stunning babies. Thankfully I held onto several babies so I still have her genetics. The CBLT iunfluence in her genes is strong so hoping to produce more like her.

What else can you do. Whenever we bred, we risk our animals but if we don't breed, they would all eventually die off with no progeny!!

Chin up and go play with the little ones - just a little so as not to stress them out!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (05/26/2009):
36.51 BRB
29.42 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Jeremy:

So sorry to hear about your loss.

This hobby / business of ours is filled with such extreeme emotions. One minute your in the goooo and the next minute you find yourself in the pit.

Like Dave said just spend as much time as you can looking at all of your new babies. Find the positive and hold onto it.

Brian

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Brian Gundy

www.for-goodness-snakes.com

Dave I'm sooo sorry another huge loss .
I know she was very special to you.
It is good you have great hold backs

. . . Lar M
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Boas By Klevitz
Boas By Klevitz

Thanks Lar, Only reason I posted so others would know it happens adn if they really like their genetics, keep some!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (05/26/2009):
36.51 BRB
29.42 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Damn bro I'm sorry to heard the news. Will you be doing a necropsy to find the cause of death?

>>Damn bro I'm sorry to heard the news. Will you be doing a necropsy to find the cause of death?

I would have to send her off to have a Necropsy done, I considered it but I don't think it was disease related.

Honestly talking to a friend and recalling her posture since her birthing, I think something happened internal during the birth process.

She hasn't coiled up since labor, I'm thinking something got twisted or herniated. She feed two days ago medium rat which she regurgitated, I suspected something wrong but didn't foresee death.

Honestly I'm not in a position to get much Vet health, I usually have to steer the office visit as Vets in my area don't see Reptiles. Had I known not coiling was a sign of something wrong, I would have taken her in, she felt fine when handled. I just figured she was sore...I was wrong apparently.

I feel bad but am relieved she dropped the litter, perhaps she knew there was something wrong and dropped early to save the litter....we'll never really know.
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Jeremy Payne
JB Reptile

1.0 Snow "Kahl"
0.2 Triple Het Moonglow "Kahl"
0.1 Orange Tail Hypo Het Leopard
0.1 Double Het "Sharp" Snow
1.0 Ghost
0.1 Possible Super Hypo
0.1 DH Ghost
1.1 "Kahl" Albino
1.0 Hypomelenistic
1.3 Pastel Hypo
0.1 Anerthrystic

1.1 Morelia Clastolepis

I am new to raising Boas. I thought that these snakes in general can live up to 15 years or so. What you think had happened? I know you took good care of the snake, but why you think it had died? You would think the snake should lived longer, wouldn't you?

Obviously I can't say what happened specifically in this case but....

Breeding is taxing on the parents. Sometimes they don't make it. In people as well, without all our modern medicine, more women would not survive being pregnant.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (05/26/2009):
36.51 BRB
29.42 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Thanks for answering my question. Ok, that makes sense. I did not think about that angle of it. So it "could" be a issue that the female having the babies and it had some sort of natural issue. Thanks....and I am sorry that poster lost his snake.

the bright side. You can carry on her lineage.
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Ty Hege
Rat Race Solutions
www.ratracesolutions.com

A sad day for all who loses any animal.
Sorry to here.

Col.