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pyramiding in redfoots?

Jonvd May 29, 2009 10:49 PM

Hey all,

I am looking for any advice on how to eliminate pyramiding in redfoots before it begins. Does proximity to a UV light make a huge difference? Ex - (a 10.0 bulb less than 5 inches from the animal) or can this be harmful? Is it dietary and UV related? I am looking to purchase some redfoots and would really like to avoid ANY unnatural pyramiding whatsoever. Unfortunately I live in NY (for now) so outside sunlight is not an option (most months). Is it possible to keep tortoises indoors and avoid pyramiding? Any advice on preventative measures that could be taken to mitigate this will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks a ton

Jon

Replies (3)

clemmysman May 30, 2009 08:31 AM

Hopefully Jon this Q? doesn't get too [ I almost said stupid ] out of hand.

I have 3 females that I raised from 10/98 hatchlings. Two of them developed a 'degree' of pyramiding.. BECAUSE I raised them dry [ with leopard hatchlings ] under a UVB bulb ( which they never sat under like the leopards did ].. and fed them all romaine lettuce! The temps are not a factor in pyramiding.. other issues when kept too low of course!

Soooooo.. the OLD "paint-all-tortoises-with-the-same-brush".. is worse than OLD.. it's disastrous to all tortoises that are kept the same way. THERE ARE ALMOST AS MANY DIFFERENT WAYS TO CARE FOR A TORTOISE AS THERE ARE DIFFERENT TORTOISES!

Basic guidelines.. low to mid-80 AMBIENT temps and same AMBIENT humidity. Redfoots eat anything! I happen to believe that their staple diet in the wild is fungi and feces.. their source of protein/D3.

So the hatchling leopard tortoises did better than the redfoots.. until I took them outside and exposed them to the high humidity where I live. And the redfoots liked the humidity but didn't like the direct sunlight!

"We" now realize the importance of a humid hide [ regardless the species - this is where I ask to consider there are always exceptions and extremes - don't get stupid ].. and protein is not the cause of pyramiding.

A couple years ago we had a drought.. and my redfoots shut down - virtually no breeding - and their carapace health showed it!

One of my '05 redfoot hatchlings that I raised looks like this..

If this is what you would like yours to look like.. go to the caresheet in my website.

Hope this helps.

Terry

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Terry
Turtletary.com

emysbreeder May 31, 2009 05:55 AM

Question? Why are wild Star Tortoises from India smooth and the same Tortoise in the wild in Sri Lanka is "naturaly pyramided".(including captive born) Keep in mind Sri Lanka has desert,Mountains,a 12 mile wide rain forest,and two coast lines in an ap. 200x400 mile island. Vic

clemmysman May 31, 2009 07:53 AM

Only GOD knows the answer to that one Vic!

4" confiscated ( TSA ) Indian Star tortoises..

7" captive hatched female Indian Star.. not bad..

Terry
Turtletary.com

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