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Is a super the same thing as a butter. What does an adult Vanilla look like, does it look like a fire? I was at a show today and just did not see a real difference with a baby.

Thank you
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0.2 Rotts
1.0 Super Tiger (Dash)
1.0 Amel Retic (Mahola)
0.1 Ball Python (Cyeanne)
0.1 Red Tail (Memphis)
1.0 Coral Sun Glow Boa (Rodman)
0.1 Blood Python (Danica)
1.0 Green Ananconda (Prefontain)
1.0 Emerald Tree Boa (Bing Bong)
1.0 Ivory Ball Python (Hansel)
0.1 Bumble Bee Ball Python (Sissy)
0.0.2 Yellow Ackies

A vanilla is subtle morph. The super does not look anything like a butter in my opinion. I work with them as a cleaning gene for my combos they really help keep the colors of pastels etc..

Whats an adult vanailla look like.
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0.2 Rotts
1.0 Super Tiger (Dash)
1.0 Amel Retic (Mahola)
0.1 Ball Python (Cyeanne)
0.1 Red Tail (Memphis)
1.0 Coral Sun Glow Boa (Rodman)
0.1 Blood Python (Danica)
1.0 Green Ananconda (Prefontain)
1.0 Emerald Tree Boa (Bing Bong)
1.0 Ivory Ball Python (Hansel)
0.1 Bumble Bee Ball Python (Sissy)
0.0.2 Yellow Ackies

The adult vanilla looks like a light gold almost pastel like but not as rich of color.

Agreed. I have both and the Super just looks like a really REALLY clean but more intense normal. I bet a Super Vanilla and a Pastel or Super Pastel would make a great looking snake. I havent gone there yet but I may try it. Actually I need to pick up a female Vanilla Ghost to go with my 900 gram Vanilla male Ghost I have. I bet that could make some super projects down the road mixed with all the different Ghost stuff. At the risk of getting a lecture or starting some kind of an arguement...lol. The Butter is VERY similar to a Lesser..
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JEM from sunny AZ.

2.25 Normals
5.9 Pastels
3.6 Normal Spiders
1.3 Orange/Butterscotch Ghosts(BallPython777 Mark Petros)
1.1 Spiders 100% het Ghost(thanks Mark Petros)
0.2 Spiders 66% het Ghost
0.4 100% het Orange Ghost
0.3 66% het Orange Ghost
0.1 Pastel Ghost
1.0 Citrus Ghost
0.1 Super Pastel 100% het Ghost
2.0 Albinos
1.0 Caramel Albino
0.4 100% het for Albino
0.3 66% het for Albino
0.1 50% het for Albino
0.1 Yellow Bellies
1.2 100% het for Clowns
1.2 Cinnamons
1.2 100% het for Pied
0.3 66% het for Pied
1.3 Mojaves
1.1 Beautiful Black Pastels(thanks Gulf Coast Reptiles)
1.1 BumbleBees(thanks for the AWESOME Bees Marc Bailey)
1.0 Super Pastel
0.1 Chocolates(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
1.1 Lessers
2.1 Fire's(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
1.2 High White Calico's(Thanks Brent from BRB)
1.1 SpotNoses(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
2.1 Enchi's
1.0 Pinstripe
0.1 Lemon Blast
1.0 Vanilla Ghost(Thanks again GCR for all the great snakes)
0.0.1 Vietnamese Blue Beauty

17 Tarantulas
Last but most Important 2.2 Children

Hey you gotta go to the Balls Classifieds right now and just put Vanilla in the search window. You will be able to see Vanillas and also GCR has a Super Vanilla male on there so you can see what they look like. Take a look at the Super Vanilla and then look at a Lesser and a Butter. You will see that the Super Vanilla is just a super clean version of the normal Vanilla and they look nothing like the Butter or Lesser but the Butter and Lesser look very much alike. Hope that will help you. Jay
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JEM from sunny AZ.

2.25 Normals
5.9 Pastels
3.6 Normal Spiders
1.3 Orange/Butterscotch Ghosts(BallPython777 Mark Petros)
1.1 Spiders 100% het Ghost(thanks Mark Petros)
0.2 Spiders 66% het Ghost
0.4 100% het Orange Ghost
0.3 66% het Orange Ghost
0.1 Pastel Ghost
1.0 Citrus Ghost
0.1 Super Pastel 100% het Ghost
2.0 Albinos
1.0 Caramel Albino
0.4 100% het for Albino
0.3 66% het for Albino
0.1 50% het for Albino
0.1 Yellow Bellies
1.2 100% het for Clowns
1.2 Cinnamons
1.2 100% het for Pied
0.3 66% het for Pied
1.3 Mojaves
1.1 Beautiful Black Pastels(thanks Gulf Coast Reptiles)
1.1 BumbleBees(thanks for the AWESOME Bees Marc Bailey)
1.0 Super Pastel
0.1 Chocolates(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
1.1 Lessers
2.1 Fire's(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
1.2 High White Calico's(Thanks Brent from BRB)
1.1 SpotNoses(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
2.1 Enchi's
1.0 Pinstripe
0.1 Lemon Blast
1.0 Vanilla Ghost(Thanks again GCR for all the great snakes)
0.0.1 Vietnamese Blue Beauty

17 Tarantulas
Last but most Important 2.2 Children

Here is a comparison shot of a vanilla, a black pastel and a brass ball (vanilla black pastel).

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