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We know that a killer-bee has a super pastel gene... what will the offspring be if bred to a normal? Thanks Mark Sisco

50% bumble bees and 50% pastels.

Wouldnt you also have like a 25% chance to get Supers Pastels? After all you have the Pastel gene coming from both sides.
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JEM from sunny AZ.

2.25 Normals
5.9 Pastels
3.6 Normal Spiders
1.3 Orange/Butterscotch Ghosts(BallPython777 Mark Petros)
1.1 Spiders 100% het Ghost(thanks Mark Petros)
0.2 Spiders 66% het Ghost
0.4 100% het Orange Ghost
0.3 66% het Orange Ghost
0.1 Pastel Ghost
1.0 Citrus Ghost
0.1 Super Pastel 100% het Ghost
2.0 Albinos
1.0 Caramel Albino
0.4 100% het for Albino
0.3 66% het for Albino
0.1 50% het for Albino
0.1 Yellow Bellies
1.2 100% het for Clowns
1.2 Cinnamons
1.2 100% het for Pied
0.3 66% het for Pied
1.3 Mojaves
1.1 Beautiful Black Pastels(thanks Gulf Coast Reptiles)
1.1 BumbleBees(thanks for the AWESOME Bees Marc Bailey)
1.0 Super Pastel
0.1 Chocolates(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
1.1 Lessers
2.1 Fire's(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
1.2 High White Calico's(Thanks Brent from BRB)
1.1 SpotNoses(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
2.1 Enchi's
1.0 Pinstripe
0.1 Lemon Blast
1.0 Vanilla Ghost(Thanks again GCR for all the great snakes)
0.0.1 Vietnamese Blue Beauty

17 Tarantulas
Last but most Important 2.2 Children

killer bee x normal...

Ahhh.. Thanks for bringing that to simpltons attention..lol. I guess I either forgot about the Normal part or just put Normal Pastel in my head between reading it and writing about it..lol. I promise I didnt actually think you could make Super Pastels from a Killerbee and a Normal WC type..
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JEM from sunny AZ.

2.25 Normals
5.9 Pastels
3.6 Normal Spiders
1.3 Orange/Butterscotch Ghosts(BallPython777 Mark Petros)
1.1 Spiders 100% het Ghost(thanks Mark Petros)
0.2 Spiders 66% het Ghost
0.4 100% het Orange Ghost
0.3 66% het Orange Ghost
0.1 Pastel Ghost
1.0 Citrus Ghost
0.1 Super Pastel 100% het Ghost
2.0 Albinos
1.0 Caramel Albino
0.4 100% het for Albino
0.3 66% het for Albino
0.1 50% het for Albino
0.1 Yellow Bellies
1.2 100% het for Clowns
1.2 Cinnamons
1.2 100% het for Pied
0.3 66% het for Pied
1.3 Mojaves
1.1 Beautiful Black Pastels(thanks Gulf Coast Reptiles)
1.1 BumbleBees(thanks for the AWESOME Bees Marc Bailey)
1.0 Super Pastel
0.1 Chocolates(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
1.1 Lessers
2.1 Fire's(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
1.2 High White Calico's(Thanks Brent from BRB)
1.1 SpotNoses(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
2.1 Enchi's
1.0 Pinstripe
0.1 Lemon Blast
1.0 Vanilla Ghost(Thanks again GCR for all the great snakes)
0.0.1 Vietnamese Blue Beauty

17 Tarantulas
Last but most Important 2.2 Children

Oh I didn't think that at all. I just assumed you forgot what the original breeding in question was, which is understandable.

It may help to remember that there isn't "a super pastel gene" as such. Super pastel is the name we give to the apperence of an animal when both of it's genes at the pastel location have the pastel mutation. So a super pastel doesn't have a single super pastel gene, it has two pastel mutant genes (i.e. a super pastel is homozygous pastel). Each baby has a 50% chance as to which of a parent's two copies of each gene it gets but because both copies at the pastel locus are the same with a super pastel we know it will give a pastel mutant copy to all offspring.

"50% bumble bees and 50% pastels." (steelcityexotics)
This answers does make sense to me know that I think about it. Thanks for the mental nudge....mark sisco

You should also produce spiders from a killer bee X normal
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Alice Cobb
Florida Reptile Room

A Killer bee is a super pastel so the whole clutch will be at least pastel, Any spiders that are produced from the clutch would then be bumble bees.

Ok,so all of the babies would be bees or pastels ?

You are correct

Thanks.