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my yearling female argentine regurged again tonight this was her second time in a month. I have never had a problem with this before.
It took her a while like she was trying to digest it, because I fed her wed morning and tonight she regurgitated.

Any help/possible explanations greatly sppreciated.
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2.3 Columbian Boas (TH moonglow, Dh Ghost, DH Snow, two normals)
1.2 Central American Boas
1.1 Argentine Boas (66% het T )
1.1 Argentine Boas (normal-pure)
1.1 Bredli Carpet Pythons
0.4 Leopard Geckos
0.0.1 Tokay Gecko
0.0.1 Nile Monitor
1.0 Savannah Monitor
0.0.1 Hermanni Tortoise
2.3 RES

...horses, cats, dogs...and many rats!

I have to ask because you did not but what was your temps? Also
cage size. I have a 6 month old Suriname female that I put in
a 3' long tub and she could not find the heat that well. She
would regurge EVERY MEAL, until I put her in a 2' where she can
find the heat all the time. I also just recently heard of how BCC is
common for regurge, so maybe the Occidentalis could be the same way?
Just a thought hope this helps
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Kenny Bowman

"Symetry Exotics"
Honesty is the only route to TRUE respect, anything else is unacceptable....

Hey Krystal,

As always, tempos and humidity need to be verified to be correct.

Once past that you need to nurse this one back to normal feeding. With a second regurge several days after feeding I suspect the prey item was somewhat digested? And that would mean two possible problems, Damage to the esophagus from stomache acid and Loss if intestinal flora (the microbes that aid in digestion)

Both of those problems are addressed the same way.....

1) WAIT to feed again, at least two weeks, better three or even four. The delay will allow repair to the esophagus and also allow the intestinal flora to multiply.

2) For next feeding (after the wait) feed a VERY small prey item (about 1/4 - 1/2 size of normal, smaller is more likely to have good results). The smaller prey item will be much easier to pass down, easier toi digest with the likely still reduced flora and also quicker to digest meaning much kess likely to be regurged!!!!

3) over the next few feeding cycles, SLOWLY increase frequency and meal size back to normal. Say maybe 4 feed cycles??
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (05/26/2009):
36.51 BRB
29.42 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

hi thank you for the replies.

the hot spot is in the 90s, and the ambient temp is 75-77.

she has a moist hide box to make sure she can get the humidity she needs. I live in a desert type area and humidity can be difficult which is why i provide these boxes.

last time this happened i did wait a bit before feeding her again but i guess not long enough. i will wait a few weeks this time and offer a smaller meal.

thank you again,
I hope this clears up...
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2.3 Columbian Boas (TH moonglow, Dh Ghost, DH Snow, two normals)
1.2 Central American Boas
1.1 Argentine Boas (66% het T )
1.1 Argentine Boas (normal-pure)
1.1 Bredli Carpet Pythons
0.4 Leopard Geckos
0.0.1 Tokay Gecko
0.0.1 Nile Monitor
1.0 Savannah Monitor
0.0.1 Hermanni Tortoise
2.3 RES

...horses, cats, dogs...and many rats!

np, I hope it clears up as well.

One problem I see over and over again with keepers, both novice and the so called experts is overfeeding. Snakes by design are opportunistic feeders with the capability to go loooooooong periods between meals and gorge themselves when food is available.

In the wild after a regure, that animal may not feed again for weeks, even months.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (05/26/2009):
36.51 BRB
29.42 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Keep us updated, anything else PM me and I can help further
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Kenny Bowman

"Symetry Exotics"
Honesty is the only route to TRUE respect, anything else is unacceptable....

Great advice in previous posts and those procedures listed usually resolve the issue in the vast majority of cases. However, if regurges continue to occur after other options have not resolved the issue, an enteric bacterial disorder may be the cause of the problem. In these cases, where all else has failed, I have seen oral administration of Cipro work wonders on many different species of snakes with reoccurring regurgitation syndrome. The appropriate size dosage of Cipro cut from a tablet is inserted under the skin of the smallest size feeder that the snake will take. Three dosages at three day intervals is the preferred regimen. I don't believe I have ever seen this fail to resolve the issue. I am against the indiscriminent use of antibiotics, and would typically use this only if all else has failed to resolve the problem, however I have seen this work extremely well on tough cases.

Kelly

Very good advice as well!
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Kenny Bowman

"Symetry Exotics"
Honesty is the only route to TRUE respect, anything else is unacceptable....