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Ode to CrimsonKing...

antelope May 31, 2009 02:19 AM

here's to you Mark, may you produce many more fine kings for the world to enjoy.....nah, just me! I need to get a mahogany king next, and some moles, and....

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Todd Hughes

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Bluerosy May 31, 2009 10:52 AM

here's to you Mark, may you produce many more fine kings for the world to enjoy.....nah, just me! I need to get a mahogany king next,

I was just thinking that there was another mahogany type king that paul Weaver had a few years back (like 7 yrs ago). i don't know what happened to that project . Bu it looked like those snakes were a type of recessive and not a color abnormality.

Mark- do you know which kings i am referring to? Did you get your Mahoganies from Paul? Or is it just the same namesake?

Anyone know what happened to those snakes and that project???
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CrimsonKing Jun 01, 2009 01:35 PM

I’ll start by saying that more than a few of us have added to our collections with snakes that are brought to us or in some way “rescued” then used later to breed w/ suitable mates we may already have.
It is my understanding that in one case, a good friend, Bill Schmeidecke, was brought or otherwise obtained a large local FL king that was hit by a lawn mower and badly injured. Most of us would have probably let nature take it’s course with that one, but he did some surgery and nursed it back to health. Within a year or so it was being used in some breeding projects with other local FL kings in order to try and reproduce others that looked like it and had it’s stout build. Somewhere along the way Bill began producing what he thought were cool looking and slightly different colored and toned kings he dubbed “mahogany”. Possibly his wife’s idea, the name stuck.
That is where my “mahogany” FL kings are from and they were selectively bred to get the look of a more uniform brown king than is the norm for Hillsborough county where they originated. Obviously, there can be a few different looks within each county kings might be found and you know of the more popular sulfur
line as well. Also selectively bred for some outstanding looking animals.
I do not know of Paul Weaver’s mahogany FL kings but it is possible he got them from Bill or me, I suppose..or made them himself by doing similar trial breedings etc. Mixing up the gene pool of FL kings has been done by so many for so long that it should be assumed, I think, that just about every snake in captive situations is a “mix” to some point.
All that said,
Many years back I did have a few snakes from very s. FL (a place called Mahogany Hammock) and the “mahogany” ones I now have are not related to them. That was a locale and not a given moniker.
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

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Bluerosy Jun 03, 2009 03:14 PM

Excellent background information. Thanks!
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CrimsonKing Jun 01, 2009 01:38 PM


Thanks Todd. This year has been a bit of a challenge so far.
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

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antelope Jun 01, 2009 11:15 PM

Aaahh, the ups and downs of breeding, I feel ya'.
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Todd Hughes

jlassiter Jun 01, 2009 11:53 PM

>>Aaahh, the ups and downs of breeding, I feel ya'.
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>>Todd Hughes

That's kinda funny.....LOL
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John Lassiter

"Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part....."

antelope Jun 02, 2009 07:40 AM

like I could retract it if I wanted to, lol!
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Todd Hughes

CrimsonKing Jun 02, 2009 12:39 PM

...ummm you're making it worse...
hahaha
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

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jlassiter Jun 02, 2009 01:14 PM

HE.He
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John Lassiter

"Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part....."

antelope Jun 02, 2009 05:22 PM

LOL!
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Todd Hughes

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