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i was wondering if anyone had pics of an adult jolliff axanthic?
do they brown out pretty much or do some stsay silver and black?
adam jeffery
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Here is a pic of mine. He is an 06 Jolliff Axanthic Het Snow. He has browned some but not as bad as a lot.
Trey
Jolliff Axanthic

From my experiences with all three recognized axanthic lines, I have seen killer examples of all three and also very brown looking animals from all three lines. I feel they are going to very alot just like pastels. There are nice ones and ugly ones.

When you are buying into the Axanthic project ask to see what the parents looked like and try and buy from one that was produced from a nice adult. They all look great as babies.

I would also like to comment on the fact that most people prefer the VPI line then the SK line and then last but not least the Jolliff line. I have had the pleasure to work with all three lines and I will say you can make great combos with all three lines.

I think that when the snow was produced that is what determined what would be considered the better line. Simply because the Vpi snow was the best looking snow and then the SK and then the Jolliff. But if you are making combos such as axanthic spiders and such I feel you can make great examples with all three lines.

Enclosed you will find a pic of my male Jolliff Axanthic breeding. He was two years old in that pic. Paul Wyble at Steel City Exotics

Individual animals vary and a snake's appearance will change as scales are similar to human fingernails. They are translucent and grow darker as they grow thicker. Check out the toenails of an infant, a 30 yr. old, & an 80 yr. old's toes if you're having problems getting a good visual. I love the Charcoals from SK line, I have some real nice VPI stuff from a classic Jungle line that are really light & stay clean. I have bred my Genetic Banded bloodline into VPIs and hope to see more Banded VPI Axanthics in the future.

I like the Jolliff strain for the Genetic Banding. They can produce some wicked pattern reduction when bred together.

I have also bred out a line of genetic Black Back Jolliff Axanthics that have some intense colouration. They have so much white, I initially had difficulty discerning them from Pastel Axanthics.


Here is a my original female > 10 yrs....

....her > 16 yrs.

....a 2.5 yr. old

....some Het. Albino/Snows I've seen seem to have more yellow/brown or an increase in yellow pigment (?)

while my DH Axanthics (VPI & Jolliff) look almost like an Axanthic as they seem to be missing a layer or layers of yellow pigment(?). The VPI strain does seem to eliminate an additional layer or "more" yellow pigment than the others. It will be interesting to see how Albino/Snow versions of SK Charcoal Axanthics and the mini "Black" Axanthics turn out. I think they are all different & beautiful keys to the puzzle. There are obviously different layers of yellows....I'm really stoked about them being bred into Clowns, Pieds, & Hypos (Ghosts) but can't wait for the Caramels, Lavender Albinos, Bananas, Caramel/Hypos, etc., etc.

Those Black Back Axanthics are spectacular. Very clean.
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