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egg bound what to do?

pavel Jun 07, 2009 09:23 AM

I fear my leo might be egg bound. I go through this stress yearly it seems. With the exception of last year she has in the past made use of her moist hide as a egg site. Last year she didn't. Instead she laid them in her 'coliseum'. As of this time, she still hasn't laid her eggs and she's completely uninterested in food. (Not surprising as I'm sure the eggs are pressing on her intestines and stomach. The lack of eating during this period is also normal for her.) But it seems like she's well past due for depositing her eggs. (In hindsight I wish I had kept a record of when she typically laid her eggs. But as they are sterile, never seemed to be much reason to do so.) She's only 7 or 8 yrs old.

Has anyone has a similiar situation and is there anything that can truly be done with any measure of success? Is waiting it out & hoping for the best all that can really be done?

Being such a small creature, I really don't see that there would be much a vet could do.

*sigh* Wish females didn't produce eggs unless mated.

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indictment Jun 07, 2009 04:45 PM

Most females don't produce eggs unless they have mated...but it's not uncommon for them to do so.

Egg production time varies depending on the nutritional intake and heat metabolism that the gecko has access to or subjects itself to.......I've had some geckos lay eggs ultra quick and then take awhile to put on weight for the next clutch and there be an extra week than normal until the next clutch is laid...there are just so many factors.

As far as a vet, I don't see much they can do without you paying a ridiculous vet bill if they operate........they might be able to puncture the eggs through the abdominal wall so she can pass them easily, but I wouldn't risk that unless you know for certain she is indeed egg-bound and going through dystocia.
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kinyonga Jun 07, 2009 05:09 PM

Are you giving her a good amount of calcium? What supplements do you use (be specific please) and how often for each? What do you gutload the insects with?

pavel Jun 07, 2009 09:29 PM

indictment, she's produced eggs every year since she matured. Yeah that's what I pretty much thought vet-wise too. Thing is even if a vet drained the eggs with a syringe, no telling if that would truly do much to help her pass them. (Don't really see them being able to anesthetize her either before going to work on her.

kinyonga, she eats crickets, mealworms and the occasional pinkie mouse. The crickets are gutloaded with fishflake food for freshwater fish (sorry can't remember the brand name). The mealworms, in addition to the bran I raise them in also get the fishflake food and for moisture get carrots to nibble. There is a dish of powdered calcium (no phosphorus) with a dusting of Reptivite in her tank at all times. Crickets are dusted usually ever other feeding, mealworms are dropped into the calcium dish

kinyonga Jun 08, 2009 02:16 PM

A vet could give her a shot of oxytocin to help her lay the eggs...but it will generally only work if given in the right time frame and can be a bad thing if there is any physical reason she's not laying the eggs (like deformed eggs, eggs that have grown too large, etc.)

You said..."The crickets are gutloaded with fishflake food for freshwater fish (sorry can't remember the brand name). The mealworms, in addition to the bran I raise them in also get the fishflake food and for moisture get carrots to nibble. There is a dish of powdered calcium (no phosphorus) with a dusting of Reptivite in her tank at all times. Crickets are dusted usually ever other feeding, mealworms are dropped into the calcium dish"...Reptivite, pinkies and probably the fish food contain preformed vitamin A. Excess preformed vitamin A can prevent the D3 from doing its job and lead to MBD. Assuming that your cage has no UVB lighting on it, do any of the supplements you use have D3 in them? Do the fish flakes?

Does your gecko hold her body up off the ground when walking? Does she show any signs of MBD? An imbalance in the phos., D3, vitamin A and calcium can play a part in egglaying in that calcium plays a part in muscle contractions.

Is there anything that has changed in your setup lately?
I'm not a vet...just laying out some possibilities.

pavel Jun 08, 2009 06:46 PM

Don't know about the fish flake food as I do not have the original container any longer. However, both the calcium supplement and the Reptivite contain D3. No recent changes in the environment.

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