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I work many months of the year away from home...before I got back home a few (4 or so) weeks ago I had my wife and one of my sons taking care of some yearling Holbrooki I have coming up......I had 2.2 adult thayeri from Larry Briggs as well and had hopes of possibly being able to produce at least one clutch from them....So, I had a good friend of mine take care of them and see if he could get them to breed for me.
The 2.2 got a short (8 week) cool down, but I doubt it was enough, at least for the males....(This was prior to the new snake room)...
Anyway....Both females did produce eggs, but both laid slugs last week and the week before....I kinda expected it, but hoped for better results.....

Now the new snake room is finished and the hibernation chamber for this winter is almost complete.....I will sure get a good brumation this winter.....(It is a tough thing to do in South Texas.....Todd-antelope can attest to that with me)

This is where I am going with all this rambling....lol

When I got home a few weeks ago I got 2.1 thayeri from Maria Heidkamp.....
I decided to start putting one of the 'brumated' males I got from Maria with the first female to lay slugs......Been feeding her alot lately too....
This is what I witnessed tonight....
I wonder if this will work....



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John Lassiter

"Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part....."

I was wondering that myself John, I hadn't heard of anyone trying for the double with thayeri, but am willing to try with Walt and Mildred. or maybe throw in the stud, Fred. If I plump her up, he is probably good to go. She ate three small hoppers today, after laying one more slug this morning and shedding this afternoon. ???
Fingers crossed for that pairing John!
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Todd Hughes

>>I was wondering that myself John, I hadn't heard of anyone trying for the double with thayeri, but am willing to try with Walt and Mildred. or maybe throw in the stud, Fred. If I plump her up, he is probably good to go. She ate three small hoppers today, after laying one more slug this morning and shedding this afternoon. ???
>> Fingers crossed for that pairing John!
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>>Todd Hughes

I know Thayeri will double clutch...My old Olive female laid two clutches one year with only one witnessed copulation prior to her first clutch.....Feeding heavily after brumation and after egg laying was the key....Some people frown upon double clutching, but I bet they do it in the wild on occassion, but who knows.....
I don't want to double clutch every female I ever breed....
I was just wondering since this female laid duds....was it her fault or the male's.....This male hooked up with her was brumated correctly.....in Alaska....lol
I bet there is no problems trying to reach brumation temps there.

WAY easier than the South Texas way...
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John Lassiter

"Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part....."

John, show us a pic of the drawers open, por favor! I gotta get over to your casa to check out your room, it's looking good!
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Todd Hughes

>>John, show us a pic of the drawers open, por favor! I gotta get over to your casa to check out your room, it's looking good!
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>>Todd Hughes

Todd,
Here are a few shots....The left side drawer of every enclosure is the "dry-hide". The right side drawer is the "wet-hide". The Wet side is not wet it is moist and humid....It is amazing how much time each snake stays in there. I am beginning to think they absorb water more than they drink...lol
With both these hides I have had a perfect shed every time...Humidity is crucial to more things than just shedding. Feeding response is awesome...better than I have ever seen.
All the pooping is done in the dry hide....Easy clean up....
The 'wet-hide' doubles as a egg laying chamber as well....
All with thermostat controlled heat wire and adjustable timed lighting.....



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John Lassiter

"Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part....."

freakin' awesome! Thanks for that, yep, this ain't Alaska by a long shot! Those setups are just the ticket, looks like I'm gonna be a carpenter again, dammit!
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Todd Hughes

Did you get a whitewall speck as well? Haha!
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Todd Hughes

>>Did you get a whitewall speck as well? Haha!
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>>Todd Hughes

Nope...I got 1.1 Definite Double Hets for Amel and White Wall as well as some females that are possible het for White Wall...Should produce a white wall next year if I get a pair close to 30 inches....
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John Lassiter

"Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part....."

Nice setup John.....Mike Bod

>>Nice setup John.....Mike Bod
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Thanks Mike....
Now let's see if I can get them to produce some NICE offspring again....

How's things cookin over there Mike?
Can't wait to see what your thayeri produce this year....

Regards,
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John Lassiter

"Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part....."

I'm with them, John. Great looking setup. Looks like your pair is doing what they need to do. I'll do a fertile egg dance for you. lol.
Ken

>>I'm with them, John. Great looking setup. Looks like your pair is doing what they need to do. I'll do a fertile egg dance for you. lol.

Thanks for the Fertile Egg Dance to the Snake Gods.....LOL
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John Lassiter

"Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part....."