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how would you tell the differance between a normal spider and a het red spider? i was thinking of doing this combo but figured it would be very difficult to tell which was which.
any insights into this combo would be appreciated
adam jeffery
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" a.k.a. farfrumugen "
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.

I've never heard fo a "het red spider". If you are in fact referring to a het red axanthic spider, that is a combination of a het red axanthic and a spider, then the difference would be quite obvious. The snake would have the colouration of a het red axanthic with the "webbing" pattern of a spider.
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A het red axanthic spider? I think het red spider explains everything...... that would tell me its a spider het red axanthic. Wow
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1.0 Sunrise (sshhh)
1.0 orange ghost mojave
1.0 Yellow Belly
1.0 Het pied
1.0 Green Hypo
1.0 Spider Het B Hypo
0.1 orange ghost mojave
0.1 Green Hypo
0.1 mojave
0.5 Het nerd Orange Hypo
0.2 poss Het nerd Orange Hypo
0.1 poss Het albino
0.1 het pied
0.1 Bell Jungle
0.6 normals
0.1 black pastel (unproven)
0.1 Tiger ball (unproven)
0.1 genetic reduced pattern
0.1 black back
0.1 mojave (best looking one ever! thanks Jeff Luman)
0.1 Pastel Het ghost
1.0 posslble salmon boa
0.1 BCI 8.5 ft x m
1.0 snow corn
0.1 amel corn (did not prove out of 14 eggs 2b het anery)
0.1 amel corn
0.1 ghost motley corn
1.0 love line (creamcicle?) okatee
0.1 love line okatee
1.0 albino vanishing pattern nelsons
2.0 Het albino vanishing pattern nelsons
0.1 blue tail monitor
2.0 Reed frogs
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Hey Adam,

Yes, you should be able to tell the het red spider apart from the normal spiders. Check out clutch 53 from Ralph Davis' 2006 birthing records to see what they look like.

I'm looking forward to seeing what the red axanthic spiders look like. Could be really nice!

Take care,
Tom

i didnt think their would be such a differance in color but WOW...i think i just chose my project...now to get a male....
thanks again
adam jeffery
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" a.k.a. farfrumugen "
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.

Hey Adam, Just ignore Mykee.. I have nevver seen anything constructive on a post from him before.. He enjoys making people look like what he thinks is an idiot. I am sure that pretty soon EVRERYONE will ignore him.. Hey whats wrong with you Adam, "you should know you have to use the word Axanthic" otherwise Mykee is not going to know what you are talking about and neither will any of the other of us....LOL, Some people just have to be ignored and he is one of them.. Have a great season.
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JEM from sunny AZ.

2.25 Normals
5.9 Pastels
3.6 Normal Spiders
1.3 Orange/Butterscotch Ghosts(BallPython777 Mark Petros)
1.1 Spiders 100% het Ghost(thanks Mark Petros)
0.2 Spiders 66% het Ghost
0.4 100% het Orange Ghost
0.3 66% het Orange Ghost
0.1 Pastel Ghost
1.0 Citrus Ghost
0.1 Super Pastel 100% het Ghost
2.0 Albinos
1.0 Caramel Albino
0.4 100% het for Albino
0.3 66% het for Albino
0.1 50% het for Albino
0.1 Yellow Bellies
1.2 100% het for Clowns
1.2 Cinnamons
1.2 100% het for Pied
0.3 66% het for Pied
1.3 Mojaves
1.1 Beautiful Black Pastels(thanks Gulf Coast Reptiles)
1.1 BumbleBees(thanks for the AWESOME Bees Marc Bailey)
1.0 Super Pastel
0.1 Chocolates(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
1.1 Lessers
2.1 Fire's(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
1.2 High White Calico's(Thanks Brent from BRB)
1.1 SpotNoses(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
2.1 Enchi's
1.0 Pinstripe
0.1 Lemon Blast
1.0 Vanilla Ghost(Thanks again GCR for all the great snakes)
0.0.1 Vietnamese Blue Beauty

17 Tarantulas
Last but most Important 2.2 Children

you know i was going to say something to him but the fact is that ive probaly been breeding snakes longer than hes known their was a hobby involving snakes at all....
thanks for the input
adam jeffery

p.s. mykee no one else seemed to have a problem understanding the post - only you !!
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" a.k.a. farfrumugen "
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.

He doesn't not understand anything nice.. I sure would hate to be his wife the way he talks down to everyone here. Now, Um dont let him bother you which I can see your not but all you have to do is look at past posts of his to see what a friendly and informative person he is.. You know the thing is there are so many helpful and extremely nice people on here that like to chat and share experiences both good at bad to help others and then you get him.... There really is 2 very good things about him... #1 I am not related to him and #2 he wont live forever...lol. I really consider people of his caliber to be oxygen pirates, sucking air that the rest of us could be using in a more constructive and well meaning manner. Have a great season
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JEM from sunny AZ.

2.25 Normals
5.9 Pastels
3.6 Normal Spiders
1.3 Orange/Butterscotch Ghosts(BallPython777 Mark Petros)
1.1 Spiders 100% het Ghost(thanks Mark Petros)
0.2 Spiders 66% het Ghost
0.4 100% het Orange Ghost
0.3 66% het Orange Ghost
0.1 Pastel Ghost
1.0 Citrus Ghost
0.1 Super Pastel 100% het Ghost
2.0 Albinos
1.0 Caramel Albino
0.4 100% het for Albino
0.3 66% het for Albino
0.1 50% het for Albino
0.1 Yellow Bellies
1.2 100% het for Clowns
1.2 Cinnamons
1.2 100% het for Pied
0.3 66% het for Pied
1.3 Mojaves
1.1 Beautiful Black Pastels(thanks Gulf Coast Reptiles)
1.1 BumbleBees(thanks for the AWESOME Bees Marc Bailey)
1.0 Super Pastel
0.1 Chocolates(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
1.1 Lessers
2.1 Fire's(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
1.2 High White Calico's(Thanks Brent from BRB)
1.1 SpotNoses(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
2.1 Enchi's
1.0 Pinstripe
0.1 Lemon Blast
1.0 Vanilla Ghost(Thanks again GCR for all the great snakes)
0.0.1 Vietnamese Blue Beauty

17 Tarantulas
Last but most Important 2.2 Children

Im sure I he will whack me on my first short sentence of that last post.. Just goes to show that I am the idiot he already thinks we are.. I cant even talk straight without using double negatives....lol. Go ahead and talk down to me hoser....
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JEM from sunny AZ.

2.25 Normals
5.9 Pastels
3.6 Normal Spiders
1.3 Orange/Butterscotch Ghosts(BallPython777 Mark Petros)
1.1 Spiders 100% het Ghost(thanks Mark Petros)
0.2 Spiders 66% het Ghost
0.4 100% het Orange Ghost
0.3 66% het Orange Ghost
0.1 Pastel Ghost
1.0 Citrus Ghost
0.1 Super Pastel 100% het Ghost
2.0 Albinos
1.0 Caramel Albino
0.4 100% het for Albino
0.3 66% het for Albino
0.1 50% het for Albino
0.1 Yellow Bellies
1.2 100% het for Clowns
1.2 Cinnamons
1.2 100% het for Pied
0.3 66% het for Pied
1.3 Mojaves
1.1 Beautiful Black Pastels(thanks Gulf Coast Reptiles)
1.1 BumbleBees(thanks for the AWESOME Bees Marc Bailey)
1.0 Super Pastel
0.1 Chocolates(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
1.1 Lessers
2.1 Fire's(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
1.2 High White Calico's(Thanks Brent from BRB)
1.1 SpotNoses(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
2.1 Enchi's
1.0 Pinstripe
0.1 Lemon Blast
1.0 Vanilla Ghost(Thanks again GCR for all the great snakes)
0.0.1 Vietnamese Blue Beauty

17 Tarantulas
Last but most Important 2.2 Children