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Myra's babies from last week are all in blue right now, but I wanted to get some pics of a few standouts of the litter.

The entire litter is amazing, actually...I am so pleased to have this awesome group of holdbacks staying here with me

These five kids are 3/8 Suriname, and possible hets for Roswell...

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(I think those two at the top are a bit young to be doing that, LOL )

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First albino laddertail...

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Second albino laddertail...

Most of the babies are doing great...unfortunately though I lost the other mini albino, and a normal albino passed as well. There is also another normal albino, that is not absorbing its yolk and is very weak...I do not think it will survive much longer. I'm really glad the rest are healthy and strong...there were many big yolk bellies when they were born, (among the laddertails as well as albinos) and I honestly thought I might lose more than I have.
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Heather Martin
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I found it interesting many of the babies from both mothers, have much more side striping/streched out medallions, than any of my three adult laddertails from Todd Smith/Dr. Bryan Wayne...sure seems to indicate that the low to moderate expression laddertails, have the ability to produce some real high expression screamers like this one above..

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Heather Martin
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The bottom pictures stretched medalions looks like lips.

goes right along with my lateral striped boa post below. Some nice lat striping and connected medallions there!

The laddertails look great, they are so clean!
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'There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."' -Rainshadow

Staying there with you! What about my needs and wants!

Awesome contrast! That second albino is stunning!!!!!!

Sorry to hear of the few losses from the litter. Congrats on the rest!
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Cheers,
Jessica
10.15 Ball Pythons; 8.9 Corn Snakes; 0.0.1 Green Tree Python
2.2 Jungle Carpet Pythons
6.6.1 Bci
3.0 Crazy Dogs and 2.0 cats
Some Tropical Fish
...........and growing!

Heather, Your boas look beautiful, love that laddertail look, quite stunning. A quick question, I thought the laddertail's were guaranteed Het. for Roswell but you just mentioned they were possible Het. So I guess I'm confused(which is 99% of the time), what are the genetics of the Roswell..? Hope I'm not being a pain asking that question. Take care and can't wait to see more Roswell's. Andrew

This group really has appeal with
that extra thick bright pattern !

Heather more shots after shed please

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Boas By Klevitz
Boas By Klevitz

are any of your past roswell's ready to breed this coming up season? I really want to see if it's dominant or co!!! very nice.

Reddog, If you don't mind me asking, what makes you think Dominant or Co-dominant. I thought she mentioned that the Ladder-tail's she posted photo's of were possible hets. I'm now even more confused about Roswell genetic's. I get the impression that this year or next Heather will be able to prove what kind of genetic's are at work. But in the mean time what's the consensus on how Roswell's work. Take care. Andrew

Andrew, this is what I know so far...

From the numbers that have showed up in the 4 litters, it appears to operate in an incomplete dominant fashion, similar to Motley/Supermotley...

I chose to call them 'possible hets' at this time, because although I am almost certain the laddertails(and perhaps connected pattern)have the gene, I want to do a few more pairings to prove it conclusively.

And, there have been a few indeterminate babies in each litter that were not laddertail, but cannot be called normals either...they may, or may not have the Roswell gene...I have one of these males, that tried to be a laddertail but didn't quite make the look, for a pairing early next year, to see if he does indeed have the gene...

These are the numbers/phenotypes for all litters produced to date...

The first 2007 litter of 15 (laddertail X laddertail) contained:

3 Roswell (one live, two stillborn)
6 laddertail/connected pattern
3 indeterminate (have complete or partial connected patterns,
some sidestriping, but no laddertail)
3 normals

The 2008 litter of 26(laddertail X laddertail) was:

6 Roswell
12 laddertail/connected pattern
4 indeterminate
4 normals

The April 19th, 2009 litter of 25(laddertail X unrelated normal) was:

12 laddertail/connected pattern
2 indeterminate
11 normals

The recent June 4th, 2009 litter of 25 (laddertail X unrelated normal) was:

15 laddertail
10 normals (some of these may be indeterminate, still waiting on this new group to shed, for a closer look.)
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Heather Martin
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Heather, Thanks so much for providing a clearer picture into the Roswell genetics. I'm sure your busier than a bowling ball on Friday night and having to spend time answering my questions is a low priority. Your Roswell's are in a league of their own. Again appreciate your time and hope your season is quite bountiful. Take care. Andrew