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hey all,longtime snake keeper,new pituophis keeper.i just got a northern"jersey stock" pine.i figure his temps should be lowere than my bull snake's correct?right now the basking site is low 80's.he is eating like a champ,good and active,and a great disposition.also can anyone tell me what the difference is between jersy pines and any other northern pine?
thanks rob.

New Jersey Norterns are exactly that, from the New Jersey Barrens portion of the northern pine range. Typically speaking they are normally cleaner in the colors they come in. There are red, white, buff cream (ground colors with black blotches) and albino's that come from this area of the range.

As far as temps they will do fine for you kept exactly like your bull snakes.

Cherryville Farms

I've always liked those red northerns John. Very cool!!!
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Randy Whittington

so the pine can be kept as hot as the bull?really?i figured,cooler more humid?and i'll tell you this he is an amazing looking animal,white and pink,with the black.

They are very neat animals, Great size, good attitudes and enough variation to make them interesting to boot. And yes the area they come from is very sandy type soil where it gets very hot and muggy to say the least.

We have kept them along side the bulls for over 25 years and they do fine. We do however give them a little colder brumation for the center month in order to get good sperm counts etc.

Enjoy,

thanks john!and btw you have some AMAZING looking snakes!since you seem to be a very knowledgable man,let me ask you this,do any of the gophers get as big as the pines and bulls?

Thanks for the kudo's on the animals, we really enjoy them all. As far as having any knowledge, it seems sometimes that about the time I think I know something, something new will happen just to let me know how much I have to learn even after 35 years of keeping these guys.

In any case as far as the size of the gophers, about the only one that has the capability of getting as long as the pines or bulls is the sonoran. And they are never as heavy bodied as the pines and bulls are for whatever length they may be.

To me though size is really a relative thing, where a truly heavy bodied 6' - 7' animal is a truly large beast when in hand.

It never ceases to amaze me how often supposed 8' animals shrink when exposed to a tape measure. LOL I think it may be a new medical problem that some folks have and as far as I know there is no cure.

Cherryville Farms

man i was looking on your website,and i never knew the pituophis had come so far in the way of morphs!!it was cool to see a breeder,who views them as living creatures,and not a product or a toy.
p.s. i know what you mean about learning new things even after keeping for for what is almost 20 years on my end.tis bull i got is so weird he WILL NOT take mice out of tongs,i have to lay it in the cage,and he is soooo mellow about eating,just takes his time.this pine i got goes after any food like a 17year old boy with his first girl in the back of his daddy's car!lol
thanks again,and i WILL be doing some business with you in the near future!

Got two northerns and both are lazy feeders, in fact all my pits, except my two young Stillwater Hypos and a newly aquired Ruthveni are...wierd. The Stillwaters are ravenous...so far anyway. In my limited experience snakes slow down bigtime after the first year. Not sure what's up with that, my ambient temps are a little low 71-75 typically but they all have undertank heaters and curiously spend more time on the cool side...makes no sense to me. Any of the pros what to comment???

Cheers,
Brad

Don't know just what that last one is, but I want it!

Very nice reds John!
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Todd Hughes