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DWARF BURMESE PYTHONS

morphspecialties Sep 14, 2003 05:27 PM

Just wanted to share one of our latest projects. This female Dwarf Burm is gravid, ready to drop and weighs only 9.5lbs! Should have some tiny little baby Burms soon. We will be putting up an information page soon.
Let us know what you think.

Thank you,

Morph Specialties
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Savannah
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Replies (8)

coati Sep 14, 2003 05:46 PM

I heard rumors of this and now I see it is true. Imagine the combos albino.. greens.. granites... all being small enough for anybody to keep not just the "BIG" snake lovers.
I want on the list.............
Gary

JDP Sep 14, 2003 09:25 PM

Is this the only clutch? Im assuming you would have to breed two dwarfs together to produce those, unlike a het trait? Give us the details!

oldworldreptiles Sep 15, 2003 02:58 AM

Hello,

Please email me about this!!! oldworldreptiles@excite.com Is the expected clutch from het to het? het to dwarf, etc.??? Also, are you going to have any of these available for sale? Will this be your first breeding of these, and how established is this trait? What are the parents sizes, and how old are they? Where did you get the first "dwarf" from? Please email me with any details. I am interested if this can be proven!! Thanks.
Jason
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morphspecialties Sep 15, 2003 08:26 AM

Hi Jason..

The answers for you.. Instead of email I will put them here because Im sure others want to know the same.

The expected clutch and the eggs already laid are from dwarf to dwarf breeding. We HAVE NOT bred normal size or any mutants into the dwarf line yet. This will be the first captive breeding anywhere in the world and we have the only ones in captivity in the world.

These are similar to jampea retics. Jampeas have a little different pattern than the normal retics, so do these burms, they have different pattern. 1 adult pair 1.1 are for sell in the classifieds, check there, I cant talk about sales here in the forums. The adults were wild caught and the 6 1/2-7' female is as big as we believe they get. She was the largest found. The smallest gravid female we have is 4.5-5' area. So this is the area that they mature.

This is not a line of small captive burms that we breed down their size, these have evolved in the wild over thousands or millions of years to be this small. We can prove these are real. If anyone wants to put their money up, then fly here with the deposit and cash to buy animals and you can see the animals for yourself in person. All animals are accurately represented.

If you have more questions please post..
Thanks
Savannah
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Savannah
Morph Specialties
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tango Sep 15, 2003 03:34 PM

You make the comparison to the Jampea and we know the first c/b/h generation Jampea were significantly larger than their w/c parents. How can you make any guarantees when you have not hatched them and raised them yourself? Chris DeLay has been working with them for a while and still hadn't made any claims that I'm aware of, but then he is working with a seperate line if I am reading these posts correctly. Has anyone else worked with your particular line or are they fresh from the wilds? As for evolution, which in my limited understanding would have to be in the millions of years to develop a new sub-species under isolation, what is the taxonomy for these specimens, or their origin? Thanks in advance.
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Marcia Pimentel
Tango River Reptiles
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morphspecialties Sep 15, 2003 03:48 PM

Hi Marcia,

Thanks for the reply.. I never said how big the babies will grow to. Of course the jampeas with lots and lots of feeding grow to a few feet more than the wild adults. This is of course possible with these dwarf burmese. Im not making guarantees on if the babies will grow a little bigger than the wild adults. Im making guarantees that these are dwarves and not under fed burms or as some have said fake!!

Chris is working on a different line, not the dwarf line. These animals came from the wild. Noone else has these and noone else has produced them!! We bought all the ones caught. We got lucky, I guess. I believe you are right on evolution, it probably does take millions of years. Im not saying these are a different sub-species, Im not a taxonimst.

These are true dwarf bumrese pythons and they are incredible. The coloration, the size, everything.. They are just really cool.. Please feel free to ask any other questions and keep in touch..

Thanks
Savannah
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Savannah
Morph Specialties
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morphspecialties.com (coming soon)

tango Sep 15, 2003 07:27 PM

I thought the ad stated there was some type of guarantee of the babies eventual adult size, that was what I meant, sorry. When I looked just now I read only that the adults "seem to max" out at seven feet. IMO it is still early to say with any certainty but I understand I don't have all the information on your Burms. If they did evolve in isolaton you may have a true dwarf on your hands. Good luck with your project. It is very interesting to look ahead with them.
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Marcia Pimentel
Tango River Reptiles
GiantFeeders

morphspecialties Sep 15, 2003 07:40 PM

Hey thank you I really appreciate it.. I put alot, alot of money into this and my heart, so thanks for the kind words. Keep in touch.
Savannah
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Savannah
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