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09 Hypo Panamanian litter & a Suprise

JaredHorenstein Jun 28, 2009 06:47 PM

I've been super busy studying for finals and getting ready for my surgical clinicals this week so I have not had a chance to post pics...

Here's the quick story:

I introduced the male Hypo Rev. Stripe for 1 day when school first started, but soon realized that I would not be home enough to watch for ovulation of babies so I pulled him and decided to give the group the year off until my schedule was more solid. I never saw ovulation and then last mont I find Fem #3 tightly coiled in the back of her tub acting totally different than she had been the last few months

I honestly had no idea she was gravid.........well last week I come home from school and as soon as I walked into the snake room there was that smell.......I knew it the moment it it my nostrils.......BABY BOA GOO!!!

I ran to her tub expecting to see some nice hypos and stripes, but what I found blew me away!

There were 5 full term babies, and 13 slugs. 1 baby was a normal partial reverse stripe, 3 hypo partial reverse stripes, and what appears to be either an Anerytheristic or Ghost Panamanian......

My adults are the Hypo Rev. Stripes that came in back in 2005 on the CITES export group from Panama. Is it possible that these snakes are hets for Anery from the wild?

This is where id like the input from the forum and the Big Boa guys.....

As you will see the Anery baby resembles its hypo litter-mates more than any normal panamanians I have ever seen. Hypo Panamanians have bright colored highlights around the medallions whereas the normals typically do not. This baby has amazing white highlights all along the sides like the hypos and the saddles look like the hypos which is why I am thinking it may be a Ghost?.?.?.?

The Hypos & Normal Rev stripe

The Anery/Ghost with a Hypo sib

So what is it besides the COOLEST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anery or Ghost Pani?

Regardless of what it is......its going to keep me busy for years...

Jared Horenstein

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Replies (7)

Ruben14 Jun 28, 2009 06:50 PM

CONGRATS! As far as the weirdo goes,,,Anery if either. Goodluck with them.

BillyBoy Jun 28, 2009 08:14 PM

Holy crap Jared! I have no idea about the genetics, but that thing is INSANE looking! Major congrats on hitting the LOTTERY!!

charmer Jun 28, 2009 08:27 PM

FREAKIN' AWESOME! :P

I really can't tell if it is a ghost, but I think you definitely hit on the anery gene at the very least... what a sweet surprise! I'd like to see it after a few sheds!! Good luck on that kid being strong and growing well for you...
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Boas...
1.1 Albino boas (Loki & Hope)
1.1 Sunglow (Rojo and Temperance (25% Suriname))
1.4 07 Het. albino boas (Petty & Lady,Sierra,Madeline,Lola)
0.1 Reverse stripe poss. het albino (Cookie)
0.1 Salmon/hypo (Scarlet)
1.0 Anery (Reno)
1.0 Probable Super Salmontine(Kahn)
0.1 Salmontine (Sonya)
2.0 DH Sunglow (Gabrielle and Dumah)
1.0 Hypo het anery (Don Juan)
1.1 07 Hypo pos. triple hets (Rico Suave & Pumpkin)
1.0.1 Het. Anery (Guy & ?)
0.1 2007 Mostly striped boa (Andromeda)
0.3 Normals (Ophelia, Sasha, & Lulu)
1.0 Surinames (Solomon & Surreal(deceased)
1.3 Hog Isles (Mr.Orange & Peaches, Tang, Isis)
0.0.1 Central American (Sassy)
1.0 ATB (Satan... seriously!)
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2.1 GTPs (B., Monty & Jewel)
0.0.2 BPs ( Precious, Houdini)
1.2 Carpet Pythons (Jackson, Charlotte, & Cassandra)
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1.0 Saharan Uromastyx

boaphile Jun 28, 2009 08:39 PM

Is it alive? I can't tell from the pictures for sure. It is considerably smaller than the other babies and certainly looks exactly like an Anery to me. I'm sure you will be trying that breeding again to find out for sure. However, unfortunately many times small and usually premature babies will not have color fixed yet. This goes for the black as well though. That baby has plenty of black, in my opinion, and does not look like a Hypo to me for that reason. I would say it's more likely an Anerythristic rather than a preemie that doesn't have it's color yet due to the intense black that it has. Cool looking critter! Gives you a project to keep working on and that's always a good thing.

Congrats Dr. J!
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albinosunlimited Jun 28, 2009 09:04 PM

Jared Those are great looking !!! congrads !!
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amiemac9 Jun 29, 2009 07:21 AM

Wow...nice Jared!!

Is it me or does it seem like there are quite a few unexpected anerys popping out of the Central American breedings this year?

Weird.

Amie

JaredHorenstein Jun 29, 2009 02:30 PM

Thanks for the input folks.....It was a really exciting to have the little suprise....It is such a different looking animal compared to the hypos...Will be exciting to see what comes of them in he future.

Jared
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