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It's a Plane, It's a Bird!

LloydHeilbrunn Jun 29, 2009 08:00 PM

New Pseustes pair. Male has eaten a couple of fuzzies,female has not yet eaten.

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Lloyd Heilbrunn

Palm Beach Gardens, Fl.

Replies (21)

SoLA Jun 29, 2009 08:58 PM

Welcome to the club! It will be interesting to see how this group looks after they lose their juvenile coloration and pattern.

Have you tried throwing a little bird scent on the rodents for that female?

Genetic hairless mice are also my new trick for just about every snake...they also scent really well.

LloydHeilbrunn Jun 29, 2009 09:08 PM

I've only tried to feed twice, I usually try to wait a little longer before scenting.I may try tease feeding,they seem snappish, or a paper bag next.I think they had to be feeding at the breeder,I saw some hatchlings in Costa Rica which were much smaller than these.

Has everybody had good luck with bird scenting though?
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Lloyd Heilbrunn

Palm Beach Gardens, Fl.

SoLA Jun 29, 2009 09:26 PM

Mine just shed yesterday. After the shed, I tried feeding one 4g hairless mouse with vitamins and it grabbed it off the tongs but didn't eat. Thinking it was a good chance it was the taste of the vitamins (since it held it in its mouth for a bit but didnt eat), I wiped the vitamins off with a f/t day old chick because I wanted my second attempt to me more sure. It ate. Later yesterday night I fed him another hairless mouse (8g, no scenting) and it ate that too.

Articled on these snakes have said dipping small rodents in egg yolk has worked, but I really think these genetic hariless mice are pretty great, and a little bird scent is good for an added edge.

Don't be afraid of a little scent. Imprinting is a myth, and if yours happens to be the one that will only take scented...you can always sell it to me : )

dan felice Jun 30, 2009 01:34 PM

i have 'bird scented' rodents many, many times thru the years as needed & it does works quite nicely. but you have to be careful w/ this practice as it's apparently addictive to certain species & then you will have to switch [& i mean fight] them back onto rodents! moderation in all things as usual i guess is the rule. btw, here's an old pic of an 06 crumbley line bull girl who never saw a a mouse/rat that she didn't inhale. at just barely 3 years old this snake is pushing 7.5' & is apparently destined to become a monster. her feeding response is absoultely ridiculous & deserves mucho respect! i'll post a real time pic of this beast this weekend but in the meantime, any other cool pics of your all your guy's non-drys? let's light it up in the ole' forum this 4th of july for a change...........

monklet Jul 01, 2009 09:58 AM

Gorgeous Bull! "Destined to be a monster", 7.5' isn't??? Would love to see recent pics with someone holding for size.

dan felice Jul 02, 2009 04:36 AM

well i used the word 'destined' because she's only 3 years old.....i'm not sure when this little habit of her's started but she will now just launch herself at you when you open her door, twice biting me in the face. more recently she got about half my hand in her mouth while constricting the crap out of my arm. warm running water finlly made her release me after other efforts failed. she calms down after the initial flail but the opening ceremony can be quite exciting. we'll haul her out today after work & snap some pics. here's another charmer who resides here, a texas bull.

Snakesunlimited1 Jun 29, 2009 08:58 PM

So you got the pair...bastard!!! I got one of the males, mine has not eaten but they are awesome snakes for sure!!!! Good job man!!!

Jason

tmshaffer Jun 30, 2009 05:47 AM

>>So you got the pair...bastard!!! I got one of the males, mine has not eaten but they are awesome snakes for sure!!!! Good job man!!!
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>>Jason

Ben always has those things he hasn't listed. Maybe thats why my wife always come with me to Ben's
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Snakesunlimited1 Jul 02, 2009 12:16 PM

Hey man my guy just shed and both Gavin and I didn't even notice he was in shed so maybe he will eat now and maybe yours are in shed...

Jason

Snakesunlimited1 Jul 02, 2009 09:59 PM

Yup he ate!!! Two quail chicks, day old.

Jason

LloydHeilbrunn Jul 02, 2009 10:03 PM

Great!

I need to look around for something to scent with for the female.

I'm guessing I can find quail in an Asian market..... I don't think any of the local shops carry it.
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Lloyd Heilbrunn

Palm Beach Gardens, Fl.

Snakesunlimited1 Jul 03, 2009 12:28 AM

Rodent Pro, Ben Siegel, or UnderGround are 3 places I would look first. Feeder quail are cheaper than food quail. Gavin used chicken chicks.

Jason

dan felice Jul 03, 2009 11:08 AM

chicken juice/blood will probably do the trick if that's easier.

LloydHeilbrunn Jul 03, 2009 02:51 PM

Regular supermarket chicken?
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Lloyd Heilbrunn

Palm Beach Gardens, Fl.

dan felice Jul 03, 2009 04:39 PM

yes, it usually works like a charm. my buddy has w/c mangroves that he thought he was going to lose until he tried that. it was an immediate hit & i've used it on w/c yt's w/ great success as well. good luck!

LloydHeilbrunn Jul 03, 2009 11:54 PM

She ate today. I was in PetSupermarket buying dog food and grabbed a parakeet feather from their cage.

Scented with that and viola!
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Lloyd Heilbrunn

Palm Beach Gardens, Fl.

dan felice Jul 04, 2009 07:03 PM

that's using the old thinking cap! i'm surprised a single feather worked, she must have been pretty hungry.

SoLA Jul 04, 2009 11:16 PM

I'm not surprised at all. Congrats to you Lloyd. It is creative, when I feel like I need to have some scenting material I spend $100 or more on an order of chicks.

I am excited to see how these things look as adults.

LloydHeilbrunn Jul 04, 2009 11:19 PM

Thanks for the support guys.

She had another large pinkie today. The Male ate two yesterday,so hopefully I'm on my way....
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Lloyd Heilbrunn

Palm Beach Gardens, Fl.

BillyBoy Jun 30, 2009 12:16 PM

Congrats Lloyd! They look awesome!

tokaysrnice Jul 04, 2009 01:40 PM

Very Cool Lloyd!
As bummed as I am that I didn't get them I'm stocked you did!

Nate

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