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Has anyone bred any of the different T lines together to see if there compatible. Example would be to breed a visual boa womans caramel to a visual T from VPI to see if you create visuals.

Some people have been buggin me to try VPI X Blonde(Russian line Tpos) but probably won't try that out till next season. As far as VPI X BW Carmel goes they have already been proven different line by the SHarp breedings. VPI X Sharps yielded all DH for both with no visual animals and the BWC X Sharp yields a whole litter of visual DH's aka Paradigms. Thats not to say that something crazy could come from breeding the 2 lines together but at this point that unlikely. I want to see Prodigy X Blonde done. What would your opinion be on that pairing Mr.Ronne? I'm hoping to get some visual Blondes this upcoming season.

I've been speculating that Prodigy Boas could be another form of BWC.
If not possibly compatible with the Russian line

. . . Lar M
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Boas By Klevitz
Boas By Klevitz

Those were my thoughts but more of the Blondes over the BWC's but thats going off what i've seen from litter pix.

I wonder if anyone has tried to cross the columbian t to the t nic to see if visuals are born.

So the the t that was bred to a shard produced t boas het for t-???? does anyone already have the t t- sharp yet? pics would be nice.

I for one do not want to see any Nic T crossed with VPI T Carm.
I highly doubt they are compatible.

. . . Lar M
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Boas By Klevitz
Boas By Klevitz

Ok,
as far as T Blonde X Sharp goes Peter Rice did the breeding last year in the UK. and out of 19 babies I believe, he got 4 visual animals. They looked like either super nice Blondes or could've been something different. Now someone else said they did that breeding but the babies were a week or more premature and he said the whle litter was visual looking animals. Pix were never posted so people wrote that one off. I bred my Blonde to a Sharp female this year and out of 21 perfect healthy babies I got none of the visuals that Peter got. Which made me think that somehow Peter skipped a generation in his breeding and got animals that are supposed to come from breeding the non visual DH together. Which has happened plenty of times in all kinds of different breedings.

Now, a week or so after my litter someone else came on from over seas and said they did Blonde X Sharp and got all T looking animals. He did post pix but they looked just like my babies. Definitely didn't look like Peters babies or T pos for that matter. He also had another breeding that a weird looking baby popped out of that had to do with a Blond and a Hogg Crossed het Sharp male I think. Once you start crossing stuff like that it's gonna be hard to tell where the weird baby came from. So,i'm not saying they didn't get anything special but all I know is I did the breeding, I know I have a visual Blonde male that came from hets and my Sharp female was bought here in the states. Mine and Peters breeding seem to match up but this other persons doesn't at all. NOt calling anyone fibbers or anything like that but who know's if their animals were crossed with anything else that may have triggered their results. Plus like I said, the babies didn't look any kind of T pos to me. You can actually still see his post on the Boa Morph sub forum here. Here's the link. http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1688385,1688385

Yes Ruben I remember this,we have a bit of a language barrier I
believe as well with this poster.

So I am confused about what picture belongs to which litter and so forth.

From looking at the pictures provided I would say the very last
picture he posted has something unusual happening

My guess is these came from the Hog Isle breeding but it was a Homozygous Sharp paired with a Hogg het Sharp if I read and properly interpreted what he is saying.
My problem here is there are no visual homozygous Sharp babies or nothing that appears Paradigm visually,but all appear light
more like a Blonde or Prodigy type Boa

Now this picture here I believe is the 19 baby litter .

To me these babies appear very normalish not "T" influenced
His results in that litter appear to match yours Ruben

. . . Lar M
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Boas By Klevitz
Boas By Klevitz

I believe the first pic is of an actual Blonde breeding. The second pic is the litter that was from Blonde X Sharp that looks the same as mine to me also. There was another pic closer to the bottom that had a real pale T pos looking animal and thats the litter from the Hogg/Sharp cross. That pic seems to be missing now. I have it some where but only one animal in that litter had that look if I remember right and if thats the case then it proves that there wasn't a full litter of T looking animals cause eventhough it was only a het Sharp, there should've been more T looking animals in that litter.

Again,not calling them liars but there stuff doesn't ad up and i've always known Peter to be a straight shooter and I showed all the pix of my babies so....... They're all doing great by the way and look good.