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You asked, Where are the weapons of mass destruction..what's this...where's that...ad nauseum.
There is always the possibility that there are many unfounded rumors - that there are no WMD's. That Saddam is not Satan's lackey and that OsamaBin'Runnin is really an innocuous towelhead. I'll give YOU that.
People were rolling their eyes and snickering at some rumors some years back...of lampshades made of human skin, of people being human guinea pigs, ergo suffering hideously...of millions being starved to death. Longing, praying for some caring folks to investigate and give credence to the situation.
It took several YEARS to prove the allegations. Unfortunately, 6,000,000 died first thanks to the eyerollers but how many were saved...saved after the Americans finally entered the war. I repeat my point. It took years to prove the point. We need more time.
Will you give ME that?

... that you promoted Satan's lackey (Saddam) and gave him weapons AS LONG AS IT SERVED YOUR PURPOSES.

Same thing with the major drug dealer Noriega, former dictator in Panama who was fostered as long as he came in handy and afterwards was cleared away.

Another example wanted? The Taliban. Sponsored by the U.S. as long as it served their purposes. When they finally rejected an important pipeline through their country they fell out of favour and the rest is known.

You are living in a country where the natives had been slaughtered and where black people were slaves.

In Germany we have a saying: The one who is sitting in a glass-house should not throw with stones.

You got it?
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Beware of Commies and Mutts!

You're living in a country where the government and it's citizens MURDERED 6 million plus Jews! So talk about throwing stones!? I've been pretty quiet up 'till now but your anti U.S. remarks but you're really starting to border on the ridiculous Hermann. Let's stop being politically correct for a minute. First, ALL Arab countries are in some way involved in terrorism...period! They all use the "peaceful" religion of Islam as a way of giving their crap a noble purpose...period! They have no intentions of
a) living in peace with the Jews or anyone else
b) having tolerance for anyone of any other faith than their own
c) helping to bring an end to terrorism or capturing those that the U.S. currently seeks to bring to trial for the crimes committed on 9/11
Now you say we haven't the right to go into Iraq? I think we do. How long must one sit around and let our enemies plot and act before they take action? No WMD you say? Good!!! That means we got there in time! The world needs to stop being politically correct and open their damn eyes before it's too late. Countries like Germany and France better get on board before Osama has his boys park a jumbo jet in downtown Berlin or along the Champs Elysses!(or however the hell you spell it) Gee I wonder who would be the first country you would turn to then for help?????
I've read your posts for awhile now and I have really started to believe your apparent resentment towards the U.S. is deeper seeded than one might first expect. I wonder if your views on this issue and perhaps others may have something to do with the fact the U.S. was a major player in bringing Germany to and end in WWII and exposing the crimes committed against the Jews? I only say this because I was stationed in Germany and have visited Aushwitz/Birkenau(that may be spelled wrong as well) and know for a fact that the German people still have some resentment towards the fact they labeled as wrong in their actions against the Jews. So I ask you to look at yourself deep down and make sure your views on the U.S. and the war in the middle east are not biased from times past. Just a thought. Now before it get's blown out of hand I am not likening you to Hitler or holding you responsible for the crimes committed by your countrymen. I am just saying your views may be as biased(if not more so) than those you accuse of defending the U.S. and it's allied counterparts. Take it easy brother.

Tom E.

p.s. that Longicauda on your website has to be the best looking boa of all time!

... was invented in the U.S. (to the best of my knowledge) and in my opinion a discussion can do without it as far as it don't leads to name-calling.

As I stated before you guys also have a dead body in the cellar (german saying). So don't use the Nazi club in a discussion that has nothing to do with it.

Many people share your opinion as to the countries in the middle east. Many people think the Islam is a religion of intolerance and violence. Many people regard these countries as a threat.

But what I don't understand is the hypocrisy of the U.S. to be in league with some of these countries (especially Saudi Arabia who seems to sponsor the terrorism under the surface 1000 times more than Iraq) or had been in league with them (Saddam and the Taliban).

Moreover, there are countries like Lybia or Syria that are much more involved in terrorism as Iraq.

So why the hell did you pick out Iraq?

I will tell it to you: The war against terrorism was just a pretext. The true objective was a different one.

And that's hypocrisy in perfection.

Either I start a war against terrorism and the supposedly threat of the Islam, then I would have to wipe away countries like Saudi Arabia, Lybia, Iran, Syria and North Korea (and LAST AS WELL AS LEAST THE IRAQ) or I just admit that I have other interests and go to Iraq.

So, and now please tell me why I am wrong in your opinion.

PS: Thank you for the kind words as to the longicauda. I will tell it to her )
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Beware of Commies and Mutts!

I did not accuse you of being a Nazi. In fact I thought I went out of my way to clarify my point in the last post to make that evidently clear. But since you failed to see the point here it is.......ALL!!!!!! governments are guilty or have been guilty of crimes against the masses, sometimes even their own! Again I did not intend to call you a Nazi in any fashion. I was making a point that you accuse the U.S. and its supporters of war crimes while acting as if Germany is on a higher moral plateau. I live in a country that was stolen from its rightful owners and was built on the back of slaves. You live in a country that tried to exterminate an entire race. Mr Hussein used chemical weapons on his own citizens to see the after effects. Who's right Hermann?? Here's the answer..NO ONE IS!!! But here's the thing , we cant go back and stop the crimes against the native Americans, we also cannot bring back the millions of Jewish men ,women,and children killed in concentration camps, but WE CAN stop the terrorists who continue to threaten the world! Thats the real difference here Hermann , we have a chance to do whats right. Not politically correct, right. The United States has decided to not wait until these people show up with nuclear weapons before taking action. We tried talking , working out agreements , lending aide etc. Hussein has been given a decade to work with the world and choose repeatedly not to. As far as Saudi Arabia , Libya , and Iran go I completely agree with you that they should be targets as well. America and the rest of the world should take a page from Israels playbook and take it to these cowards who like to bomb pizza parlors full of kids instead of fighting like brave and proud warriors. Anyone who thinks these people want to live in peace with you should read the Hadith.(correct spelling I think) We have a saying here in America Hermann...it says get on the train before it pulls out of the station. Take care and let us know when the new book is coming out. Maybe I can get a signed copy..

Tom E.

We also have a saying that goes..."don't start nothin', won't be nothin'". Great post! Glad you're aboard.

Do you really think that one applies to Iraq?

don't start nothin', won't be nothin'

When have they started anything in recent years? Seriously, tell me.

Actually, I was referring to you guys and your silly posts.

One quick point, and one which I believe needs to be made here. Iraq is currently composed of several groups of people. Mot all live in harmony. Not every Iraqi sees himself / herself as the same as the next one. So, look into this all with a bit more detail and clarify in your own mind exactly WHO Saddam has persecuted in the past. I'm not saying it's right. Far from it. But such sweeping statements such as the ones you make are misleading.

You're right. Saddam rarely had cause to persecute the Sunnis, for he was "one of their's." Only the Shiites and the Kurds needed to be held down beneath his thumb. What is that supposed to prove?

... (and the Kurds) were primary persecuted by Saddam as you correctly mentioned.

Doesn't it make you think that even the Shiites are demonstrating against you? That they accuse you to be guilty of the death of their leader?

People who regard themselves as freed would react in a different way....
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Beware of Commies and Mutts!

Do you honestly believe you know everything that is going on over there? You're so sure that all the Shiites are protesting and hateful to us? I've no doubt that there are a few who are deeply frustrated with how things are going. I would be too, if it were my country. Grief and anger and the need to blame someone for the horrible thing that happened that day surely made some point fingers at the US and ask why they didn't do something to prevent it. And if the news sources decide only to highlight those individuals, one can easily get the impression that all Iraqis hate the US for what they have done.

It simply is not so. Yes, they're frustrated at the slow progress. They want their electricity and water and "normal" lives back. I certainly don't blame them and am not surprised if some of them lash out with fingers of blame.

What's truly sick is Iraqis are doing all the harm to themselves!! How can you blame the US for the violence now when it is them doing it to themselves?

Coming from a "scientist" I would expect much more. You read a series of posts and all you can come up with is Saddam didnt really use chemical weapons on all his citizens just some. Thanks for pointing that misleading info out really. See I thought most people would know I didnt mean every citizen but maybe I was wrong. Good thing you were here to straighten that out for everyone otherwise common sense would have taken over and people would have deduced for themselves that if EVERY citizen was gassed there would be no one left but Saddam. Thanks for saving the day bud , you really contributed to the conversation......gees

Tom E.

Good point..we should do what's right, not politically correct. I also would like a copy of the book. Autographed.

You're absolutely right! We shouldn't keep brinnging up the "Nazi club". By the same token, you shouldn't keep bringing up Noryega, Vietnam etc. Wouldn't you agree?

Keep trying as hard as you possibly can to not figure anything out dumb dumb. You consistently have no clue. That must count for something. Look at the bright side Stroeckl, the glaring absence of your brain allows you to not see what a jackass you really are. Ignorance must be bliss. Maybe you'll get your wish and the US will invade all the countries you mentioned. Would that make you happy Hitler? whoops, I mean Herman?

Snake Feller

In response to your ancient and overused cliche, properly paraphrased thusly, "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"....... "The chicken doin' the cluckin' is usually the one laying the egg."

LMAO!!! You crack me up!

don't throw rocks when you live in a glass house! Stroeckl, you have outdone yourself here. Stroeckl says that in America we had slaves. It's obvious that your pathetic government has succeeded in brainwashing that pea that you call your brain into thinking that millions of Jews weren't slaughtered in your glass house. You are an A #1, 1st class, top notch, punk. Go play in the traffic moron!

Snake Feller