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Enjoy,
Greg Graziani
2009 Photo Gallery

The Leopard gene was first produced at our facility in 2005, however Pete Kahl may have produced it prior to 2005 at his facility.

At this time we are unsure if the Leopard gene is part of the Piebald gene or if it is a separate gene that can be isolated form the Piebald gene.

Here is the information we have so far. We received a Piebald male in 2002 form Pete Kahl and we bred him to several females. Half of the babies he produces have the Leopard gene the other half appear to be non-visual het Piebalds. At this time both Graziani Reptiles Inc. and Peter Kahl Reptiles have produced Leopards from the first generation Leopards, however we have not proven that the second generation Leopards carry the Piebald gene so they have to be listed as 50% or 66% possible hets for Piebald. I will not speak for Pete Kahl but I believe that the Leopards are all 100% het Piebalds. My reasoning is the leopard pattern resembles the Piebald pattern and I think it is linked to the Piebald gene. Only future breeding will prove of disprove this theory! Either way this is an exciting new project to be working with!!!!

So far we only know what the Pastel, Spider and wild type Leopards look like. We have endless possibilities of Leopard crosses in the future to look forward to!

Thanks,
Greg Graziani
2009 Photo Gallery

Awesome balls and thanks for working to get the info out there!

Have you produced a pied yet from leopard X leopard? I'm just wondering if that pied might look different than a typical pied in addition to presumably throwing 100% leopards.

Randy this is the first Leopard Piebald that we have produced.


Thanks,
Greg
Graziani Reptiles Inc.

Greg

I believe the Leopard gene was originally linked to the piebald gene...but in your breeding to produce hets there was a cross-over event to seperate them. I would imagine that when you breed the 2nd generation you will find some are hets for piebald and some are not.

The only question left now is...why would it not be expressed before it crossed over? Perhaps when it was linked the pied masked it. Now that it is seperate it can be expressed...just am idea...you get to do all the fun work...lol.

That original Pied keeps producing them...so probably the cross over happened when that pied was produced.
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Michael Enriquez

Michael,

The reason I believe it may be linked to the Piebald gene:
1. The appearance (leopards have a piebald pattern)
2. All the leopards we know of have originated from piebalds

With that said your theory is just as valid as mine and only time will tell. Either way it is one more ball python gene to work with and if it is attached to the piebald gene that would be a bonus!

Thanks,
Greg
Graziani Reptiles Inc.

in a word,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, amazing!

congrats,
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Really, really nice!
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Jessica Gibbs
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Greg, they are just amazing!
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Alice Cobb
Florida Reptile Room

Those are really cool...congrats!
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Matt Lerer
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