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Very faded albino or a snow!

What a butcher job on those eggs, very sad

>>> What a butcher job on those eggs, very sad

I agree with that statement above and also dont get why you and so many others risk the chance of killing the baby in the egg just to see what it looks like.

just a thought , , egg cutting could eventually create a situation where the egg tooth is lost through it not being used any more.

now that would be sad.

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Paul.

Uk-Hybrids.com

This is why you cut eggs.

Yes, nothing wrong cutting when they start piping BUT using a blade, come on! He's hatching amel tic and can't afford getting scissors!

Humans never fail to amaze me...

I don't breed retics -- but there is no way "1 in 10 or 20" balls drown in their eggs if you don't cut them. Hell most of what he pointed out as "OH My God That Could Kill Them If I Didn't Cut It" is fairly typical pipping. Again I don't breed retics - and maybe they aren't as well designed in the mental capacity of a ball and maybe 1 in 10 or 20 do drown in their eggs -- but gotta wonder if maybe his ego was doing more justification then education. Isn't this the same guy that ripped a bunch of retics out of their eggs not too long ago?
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>>just a thought , , egg cutting could eventually create a situation where the egg tooth is lost through it not being used any more.

>> Uk-Hybrids.com

Nope. You don't know a whole lot about evolution do you?
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John Vandegrift

Yeah, it would take too many generations of constant eggcutting for the egg tooth to disappear. Theoretically, it could, but it would really be long long long after we all died.

So in other words it would never happen. Becuse when we are dead there's no one to open the eggs and the ones without egg tooth will die

And only the ones with an egg tooth will survive. Natural selection.

dont be daft, we are talking captivity not a wild population that someone randomly finds some clutch's now and then and cuts some open, if we all die then there is no one breeding them, so no captive balls and no one to bring any into captivity. ( Problem Solved , no hacked open eggs).

in captivity we have the control, the snake wont jump up and say hey dont hack my clutch of eggs open mate.

regardless of how many generations it could take, the possibility is their for the egg tooth to be lost through our own stupidity of constanly cutting every egg way before the baby cuts its own slit.
if the egg is always slit then the tooth isnt needed is it, evolution says lose it or grow razor blades instead.

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Paul.

Uk-Hybrids.com

What day of incubation is that?

Probably day 48 lol. Oh well what are you going to do . . .. Wait a yaer for them to breed wait 30 days for her to lay but yet can't wait 55 days till they hatch and risk killing one of your babies?? I guess I will never understand the desire to cut early?
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He has normally no hersen! Impatience man.

According to me that they approximately 45 days old is. For its skin its much too light! :-S

I cut mt snow clutch last year on day 55 and had what you are looking at. Thing is during a heat wave I had two thermometers malfunction and turned my incubator down thinking they were too hot. No way two thermometers were wrong. Well they were and and that clutch never hatched until day 63. What I thought at first to be a snow gradually turned into an albino. From the looks of it yours will to.

Oh, I only cut a little hole, just enough to see. Those things are a mess.

Damn what a hack job. Albino. Or maybe a dead albino.

that's an albino in there.

also in regards to your eggs, you can just look at the veins and see that the membrane did not detach from the egg shell inside. the soon to be hatchlings breath through their eggshell, via those veins you just cut. by cutting those veins you put stress on the babies, which is what causes them to die.

if you want my advice...........next time wait until at least day 55. by that time the the eggs should be able to be pulled apart, if you do it carefully.

if you really need to have a peek at what is inside...........
you separate the eggs...............
line them up.............
pick up one egg..............
at the very top pinch the egg shell..............
make a small cut maybe a 1/8 of an inch.............
when you release on the pinch the cut you made will double in size.......................
use the scissors to open the cut and look inside...............
if you see the veins that are separated from the egg shell continue to cut a hole open by lifting and looking inside while you cut and make the cut around any attached veins..................
by doing this you will not put the baby in any danger and you can still have your peek.

use this as a learning experience.......their your eggs, but you shouldn't put the babies lives at risk because of temptation.

Pitoon

..neither snow nor amel in the pic I saw...

pastel maybe/??....color off from camera...probably
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....Jed....
gone but never forgotten....
sorry my buddy, .....................
June 98 -July 9,09
Jedediah's Golden Dream

oooooooooooooh.....I had to look at the OTHER half of the pic...
what did you breed?....show us after it hatches , in a week or so...?....there seems to be faded amels all over the place...

quit cutting eggs, please...this is from the kiddies...please let me alone, I hate the light....I am not ready .....aaaaaah

cuticle scissors...small ,sharp,cuticle scissors....cut AFTER it pips....

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....Jed....
gone but never forgotten....
sorry my buddy, .....................
June 98 -July 9,09
Jedediah's Golden Dream

nothing beats a gool ol' BBQ............

gas or bricks or wood?

i like gas, no clean up, instant start, can control the heat (with a knob).

Pitoon

32/ 18 = 3465
minus 23
average by the square root = stop the cutting of eggs!

(i think that would be a good bumper sticker, huh?!?!?!)

Ok JYohe that was you posting in your alter ego right??

Woahhhh Brrrr that was creepy.

WOW put away the hedge trimmers.Scissors work MUCH better

J/K SMILE that was sarcasm
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Kelvin,J,Tourangeau

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....he was ragging on me for wanting to BBQ so many things...
I have no alter ego...
I am really a nice guy that is not as stupid as people think...
ask my hatchlings...LOL.....
I just tell people stuff thet really don't want to hear at times.....and tell usefull info most times....
(**reminder to myself...get loins of bobcat out of freezer now!...thanxx)>>.

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....Jed....
gone but never forgotten....
sorry my buddy, .....................
June 98 -July 9,09
Jedediah's Golden Dream

Just another perspective on 'cutting'.
I cut after a couple pip, but carefully.
A bigger danger is exposing the yolk to the crazy fruit flies. Once they lay eggs, the larvae will hatch out and they will kill the baby.
don't take the harsh criticism in this post too hard, just learn a little! good luck, tom

you had fruit flies in your incubator? did you have fruits by incubator.

i'm just curious cause those types of flies always hover over fruits, especially those that are beginning to rot.

Pitoon

scuttle flies ...(and fruit flies )will attack an open egg,,,good healthy ones can take it, the flies will eat just dead matter not live....but yes if you cut too early the amount of maggots and their defecations can kill a hatchling before it is realy to emerge...cooler than adequate temps will alow this more also....

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....Jed....
gone but never forgotten....
sorry my buddy, .....................
June 98 -July 9,09
Jedediah's Golden Dream