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I was thinking why the leopard gene has been determined to be recessive, There is a definite observable abberrant characteristic in pretty much every het Leopard i've seen, shouldn't it be classified as co-dominanat?

My 2003 Hets (from Hans) have no "observable aberrant characteristic", but they do have a unique, very attractive pattern that makes them one of the best-looking boas in my collection. I am just guessing, but I think the aberrant patterns you are seeing might be from out-breeding (to non Sonoran animals?).

We U.S. breeders need to find a little more success with the Leopards so we can learn a lot more about how this gene works.

Unfortunately, I am yet to produce any litters from my group (I also have a pair of visuals from the Barkers). I am persistent enough that I will keep trying.

Till Next Time ... Bill

I included a pic for those who do not know what Hans looks like.

When I talked to Hans, he said he had hets that were abberant, and non abberant, and the hets I have came from him. They have the "look" of het leopards, so that sort of argues the outcrossing result. I have produced leopards from visuals, but haven't tried to produce any hets yet, so no first hand experience with the look of outcrossed hets. When I talked to Hans, he said he didn't hold onto any possible hets to see if there was much to the "look" because of the strict guidelines for keeping animals there (cage size requirements for example).

I just saw Paul's post down below of his Leopard litter, so now I am not sure. But I do know when the Hypo gene is thrown into the mix, the looks changes considerably.

I saw Pauls Leopards in person today and helped sex them. Very very nice group
I was impressed. The Leopard male Sire is an '04 originated from Hans.
Great looking group of Boas. A really Light Het
I've never seen anything like it before
She's gorgeous !

. . . Lar M
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Boas By Klevitz
Boas By Klevitz

When I talked to Hans, face to face, he told me he was NOT positive they were Sonorans. That litter Paul produced has some awesome looking animals in it.

Thanks Paul. I dont know if you recognized my name but Im not far from you in northern illinois. Talked with you once when you had your first motleys. Your welcome to come up and check them out but I am waiting on a second litter due the 30th which was the same leopard dad to a screamer hypo het leopard from Celia.
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Paul Rothenbach
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Hey, now I do. I didn't see your last name in the other thread, I was just focusing on the animals. How have you been? The leopard with all the white down the side looked awesome, but I was more focused on the really light colored leopard in that group. All mine came out pretty dark and I've been trying to combo the leopards with poor results since then. Going back to leopard x leopard this coming season though. I'd love to come up and check them all out. I'm working on a track right now for an upcoming offroad race that's on the 26th. Then I'll be down in Florida until the 9th. Maybe we can meet up sometime after that. Congrats on those babies, hope the next litter comes out just as nice.