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Kimberley Rock Hatching

jburokas Jul 16, 2009 06:39 AM

My first Kimberley Rock eggs hatching out yesterday:
Just thought I'd share the picture. And, no, I'm not selling babies - just sharing the pictures of them pipping.

Krusty

Replies (25)

Mike H. Jul 16, 2009 04:04 PM

>>My first Kimberley Rock eggs hatching out yesterday:
>>Just thought I'd share the picture. And, no, I'm not selling babies - just sharing the pictures of them pipping.
>>
>>Krusty

Great stuff! Post more pics
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Mike Heinrich,
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jburokas Jul 16, 2009 06:17 PM

Here's the first little Kim out and about 24 hours after pipping. "Candling" the other eggs, they all have alive and moving babies in there. The light makes them wiggle. Hopefully lots more decide to come out! This one is 3"SVL and 7.75"TL. I don't have a digital gram scale to get a weight accurately, just a cheesy food scale. The flash washes out the colors some:

Krusty

jburokas Jul 16, 2009 07:29 PM

Krusty

tokaysrnice Jul 17, 2009 12:33 AM

Big congrats! I wouldn't sell any either.

Nate

ckoutris Jul 17, 2009 02:37 AM

HOLY SMOKES!!
Congratulations!!!
I wouldn't get rid of them either.
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Charles Koutris

jburokas Jul 17, 2009 12:32 PM

Thanks. The last time I posted pics of eggs or something here I got like 28 emails in a couple hours, so I'm just posting 'not for sale. just sharing' in advance to avoid confusion.

Here are a couple more pipping out:

ckoutris Jul 18, 2009 02:19 AM

That's funny but completely understood. They're absolutely stunning monitors. I hope to get a pair one day. I know it is going to take a while to find nice pair but I don't mind waiting. I have owned and worked with many monitors in my day but haven't had any in quite a while. The last group of monitors I worked with were Komodo Dragons at the National Zoo while I was a keeper there. Trooper could no longer work with them because of his injuries so I got all the Dragons in the house. A day doesn't go bye that I don't miss them especially Kraken who passed (RIP). After working with the largest monitors and having the facilities to care for them, my view on what is acceptable to house the beautiful creatures has changed drastically. Unless I win the lottery dwarf monitors are the only monitor I would ever think about keeping to make sure I would be able to offer the proper requirements for it to thrive. Kimberly rock monitors are on my list and hopefully one day I will be posting pictures similar to yours. Until then I will live vicariously through you and others that are having wonderful success with these fantastic animals.
again congrats!!!
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Charles Koutris

irherps Jul 19, 2009 03:28 PM

Looks like that hard work is paying off.

bob Jul 19, 2009 07:34 AM

Congrats on the kim hatching, I seen the full size pic on the other forum, they look nice but perhaps a different bloodline? Here is a pic from one of our one day old hatchlings last year. We have some young women [9month olds] from last year that are looking pretty plump so were hopeing for eggs soon ourselves.
Good luck with them, Robert Sutton
Maxian's Collection www.herphatch.com

jburokas Jul 20, 2009 01:36 PM

Thanks Ian/Bob.

Bob - I have two different "types" or "lines". The other ones you mentioned are almost yellow that I showed last year at birth/a month old, but become more grey/red/tan as adults. The father of these one's hatching is a stunner with very brilliant contrast compared to my other males. He's got a lot of yellow vs the reds and greys as an adult. I'll get a pic up of the parents.

FYI - all 8 of 8 hatched out and are in rear-up cages now. There's not just one hatchling. I moved them out one by one when they were ready, so I didn't get that 'money shot' of a whole ton of them in a container together (even though that's one of my favorite pics to get!).

bob Jul 20, 2009 03:13 PM

Wow, you actually sound more excited then my 10 yr.old son did when he caught his first Wahoo fish down in Cape Hatteras! Thats great! Back in the day Joe hatched them like most people producing bearded dragons, I always liked them but there were so many around and I was breeding pilbaras until Joe sold out and all I seen were the spiraling down effects of his best efforts to keep high numbers of them on the market. That is why after breeding pilbaras for many years [9th yr. hatching] I decided to get some Kims last year and got some nice ones that were cherry picked out of Joes stock down in Daytona. The female definatley came from Joe but not sure about the male. I did hatch 5 clutches and sold only a few, my holdbacks should be dropping anytime, probably in another month or so. Here is a pic of our founding female, I have a male that looks identical[one of her sons] but much brighter red, they are still retaining some yellow under the throats which was a characteristic the mother had and looks great! Virtually no white color except the stomach.
Best wishes,Robert

jburokas Jul 20, 2009 05:54 PM

Yup, this is a fun hobby for me - don't have Joe's $$$ or building...wish I did. Thanks for the comments (i think). lol

jburokas Jul 20, 2009 08:03 PM

Here's the sire male to these babies. He's got a nice pattern of yellow ocelli without being all charcoaled out/grey:

arta Jul 20, 2009 08:43 PM

He looks good Justin. Congrats on the babies.

jburokas Jul 20, 2009 09:13 PM

Thanks Art. Props to you for making him. He's one of the prettiest Kims I've ever seen.

bob Jul 20, 2009 09:19 PM

Nice looking guy, if you look at the black markings he has around the last 1/4 of his posterior gray spots and look at our female, she has the black markings around 3/4 of her gray occeli and some people on the forum belived her to be a male because of this trait, it just makes her red look even better [nice contrast], actually you can see in this pic she was in shed and only a small portion of her upper back was done shedding when this pic was taken. I like the black markings around the occeli, her son has alot of this going on and 2 of her daughters to but just as Ive learned with the helodermas what floats my boat may sink yours and vice versa. I have a small clutch of pilbarensis hatching now, I will try and post a pic if I think about snapping one, Joe use to call them caged jewlery and was pretty accurate at that I think.
Thanks, Robert

jburokas Jul 20, 2009 09:49 PM

I remember that image before when you shared it. It's a nice Kim. Rich red color and a lot of black banding for a girl.

jburokas Jul 20, 2009 09:55 PM

LOL. I missed part of your post.

If someone said it's a male and it is not, just post a picture of the eggs or hatching events and then a picture of your middle finger. While males usually have the dynamic patterning and more melanin, it's not always foolproof. I look more at the vent and spurs than anything with Kims. I don't even bother looking at overall size or head width as it's trivially different and with young animals it's about who's been eating and sunning more often.

bob Jul 21, 2009 05:43 AM

I have my own way of sexing hatchlings and that is if the girth of the tail is more uniform from start to finish it points at a female and when the tail has a thick base with a rapid taper it is a male [top of tail being thicker due to hemipene bulge]. Not 100% but very close with this method and if you look at your adults they mimic this on a larger scale and is more obvious due to their size and your naked eye. The hatchlings its there just a bit harder to see due to their small size in general. It has proven true with my holdbacks.
Robert

bob Jul 21, 2009 08:57 AM

Here is a pic of one of my holdback males from 08 who has been copulating with the heavily black marked female, he is many miles apart from most of the males I have seen pics of with the detailed markings and very rich red color and black markings, now once again this is what I personally like so it depends on who you are. Ever see a woman so ugly you would be embaressed to be seen with her? Well there are guys who think she may be a Fox ha? Same thing goes for the herps:}
Robert

bob Jul 21, 2009 09:02 AM

Another pic of same male

bob Jul 21, 2009 09:04 AM

And yet one more pic.

bob Jul 21, 2009 09:07 AM

I got a small clutch of 3 from a young female and only one egg calcified and was good, none the less I hatched it today.
Robert
Maxian's Collection www.herphatch.com

bob Jul 21, 2009 09:09 AM

They color up more in a few days, here is a group pic from a couple yrs ago.
Enjoy, Robert
Maxian's Collection www.herphatch.com

jburokas Jul 22, 2009 04:08 PM

Beautiful, Bob. Congratulations on the Pil, too.

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