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ShaunDuke Sep 15, 2003 12:27 PM

Awesome article. I was so excited when I saw an MHD on the front cover. About time they put some stuff on them in there. hehe. I miss my Lepidogaster "Bob"...poor girl. Well, next time if I get one I'm getting it from a private breeder rather than elsewhere...darn petsmart/co crap stores.

Anyway, I wanted to ask a question. I remember talking about mealworms once and someone said they could help me start up a colony. I'm really interested in doing that. I've got 3 Leopard Gecko's now, 1 baby pastel, 1 adult high yellow, and now a juvenile male jungle/stripe (he has genes for both, mixing him with the yellow...hehe). THey are literally going ot eat me out of house and home, not including the bearded dragon who just got over coccidia nad now is growing like a weed and ate 6 mealies last night and still wasn't done :S. He got a salad the little piggy.

So if someone could help me on the way to creating such a thing that would be great.

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ecb Sep 15, 2003 12:52 PM

But good luck at the endevor
I M looking at rasing worms (red wrigglers)
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FroggieB Sep 15, 2003 01:25 PM

Were you a regular poster when you had "BBob"? I seem to remember someone having had a Bob. I know how you could miss these guys, they are just so great!

Anyway, on to the mealworms..........

I have a plastic drawer cart on wheels that I purchased at Wal-Mart. You can get them at any discount place. I chose the larger ones that are about 2' wide and 16" deep (just a close guess, not exact).

Most use bran or oatmeal for bedding but I prefer to use unmediated chicken layana or mash for layers. I feel that it is a better gut load because it has added vitamins, minerals, and especially important, Calcium. It is formulated for laying hens for optimal egg production. It is used by many worm breeders for both mealworms and for nightcrawler chow because it helps increase egg production, there for increased product. It comes in pellets or crumbles. I have the pellets currently and although it works fine it is easier to find the worms in the crumble.

Place a layer about 2” deep in one drawer and add mealworms. Depending on how many you will be using you can add anywhere from 200 to 2000. I started mine with 2000 so I could feed my animals from the bin while some larva were maturing and turning into pupae. When you find the funny looking pupae, place them in a second drawer with about ¼” of feed in it and wait for them to turn into beetles. The reason I do it this way is that the beetles will have chow to eat when they morph and I don’t miss feeding them right away. If they don’t have food and fresh veggies they will eat the other pupae and slow production considerably.

So, once you get beetles just feed them and let them do their thing. As the beetles get older, about 2-3 weeks, remove the dead beetles and move any remaining beetles to the 3rd drawer.

Leave the drawer the beetles were in for a while and you will eventually see the feed moving as the tiny new worms/larvae crawl around. At first you will see some movement in the feed but the worms are like little fine strands of hair and only 1/16 to 1/8” long. As these mature add them to the first worm drawer and continue to repeat the process. I guarantee you will have thousands of worms in a matter of months. Before adding new baby worms and eggs I sift the worm bedding to get rid of the feces and waste feed dust.

I haven’t purchased any mealworms for 1 ½ years now and have even sold some to others in the community.

Make sure, if you are using chicken feed, that it is unmediated and that it doesn’t get moldy. The worms and beetles will need moisture and this is most easily provided in the form of fruits and veggies. I find that carrots work real well and usually are eaten before the bedding absorbs the moisture. Other good choices are, apple slices, stems from leaf lettuce, summer squash, sweet potato, and celery. In a pinch when you don’t have any safe fruits and veggies you can put a piece of moist paper towel or newspaper and they will eat that for the moisture.

For more on foods check out Trace's web site. You can find it through the Leo Gecko family album on the kingsnake forum.

Good luck,
Marcia

ShaunDuke Sep 15, 2003 03:17 PM

That was me. I had a beautiful Lepidogaster named Bob. She was a neat little lizard and I wish I had taken her to the vet when I first go her. SHe was definately infested. Well, I gave her a good life, fed her well. SHe had all the food she needed.

Cool, I'll try that mealworm thing and see how it works.

Mothi Sep 19, 2003 12:25 AM

I have some information written on my site about mealworms if you wanted to check it out. The information is basic so someone might help go more indepth. But I got some pictures if you wonder what a pupae or beetles look like or their life cycle a bit indepth.
Mealworms

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