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Had this really nice suprise today from my Liesen line Black Pastel (Pewter x spider) I believe my line of blacks carry a HIDDEN gene which can TRICK out or change patterns. I have no normal looking babies in my clutches when I breed to a normal female. As you can see from these pics of my latest clutch to a spider I got a obvious pewter, a black pastel, a pastel, and two SPIDERS but take alook at their patterns. Really different!
Hope you enjoy the pics,
Thanks Gary Liesen
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those spiders look more like a combo in my opinion.

that black pastel is super sweet. can you post more pics of that one?

Pitoon

i agree, those spiders do look like combos. are you sure they're not black pastel spiders? the pattern is very similar to the cinnabees i just hatched.

Dave
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Love the freakin head patterns! Awesome spiders and black pastels!

Jason

Are the spiders BLACK PASTEL SPIDERS? I have never seen one so that was why I posted these pics hoping for some answers.

Black Pastel Spiders I would think -- NICE ones at that! How many Black Pewter x Normal clutches have you hatched. Based on this clutch, I would say not a second gene -- but a REALLY nice clutch -- congrats.
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Bill Buchman

I have produced some spiders that also resemble yours.
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I have produced some spiders that also resemble yours.

I have produced some spiders that also resemble yours.

Sorry I was trying to post multiple pics. Here is another.
http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo147/rjs73/IMG_2635a.jpg

I have produce a number of these the past couple of years. I am not sure what is going on with them. This year me and a friend of mine bred the son back to mom to see if we get anything. When I breed the weird looking spider to normal female I ended up getting weird looking spiders and normal looking spiders.

Very Sweet! Congrats!

Are all your Pewters & Black Pastels from the same line (a.k.a. Liesen line) ?