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What do you think about this senator?

treeserpent Jul 21, 2009 11:16 AM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32027117/ns/us_news-life/

Replies (9)

Wirlwindboaz Jul 21, 2009 12:27 PM

I think the Senator likes dogs.

Of course, he may not like that dog in the video. It's a "native species", but it's DANGEROUS.

Basically, it's only snakes that the "Senator" wishes to "ban".

Also, people aren't as willing to "jump on the bandwagon" when it's "MAN'S BEST FRIEND" that's involved. Sure they might get "angry", but people tend to like furry things. It's just those "slimy snakes" that "GROSS THEM OUT" and "INSTILL FEAR!!!"

I'd rather not see anything banned..... Unless it's "IRRESPONSIBLE OWNERS" and/or "IRRESPONSIBLE PARENTS"!!!!!

hognose15 Jul 21, 2009 05:24 PM

Here is a another sad story out there.

It's so rediculous how we've had to glorify these other cases out there to make it seem like our reptiles should not be villianized or the only ones classified as such.

The common denomonator in all of these stories is an irresponsible owner/parent. The world would be better without idiots. The animals are not the issue.

In this story in particular, it looks like a wolf-hybrid. That may or may not be part of the problem. When you bring a newborn baby home, why would you assume the dog would be fine? Assuming this is their first child, the dog has no idea what that "thing" is.

Wirlwindboaz Jul 21, 2009 05:31 PM

It's a "Native American Indian dog."

Reguardless of what the dog is called....

A child is seriously injured. She may or may not make it. Hopefully she will. No matter what "animal" is involved......

"In most cases", it could have been "PREVENTED". It doesn't take much effort to make sure that your "pets or other animals" can't get near your child.

There should be a ban on "Irresponsible owners/parents"

Treeserpent Jul 21, 2009 05:35 PM

It is clear our reptiles are being villianized.yes I use this as an example myself as ammo as you may call it. Sad tragedy yes. Wars are all tragic. Point is dogs of many breeds attack people all the time. They haven't become illegal to own.

hognose15 Jul 21, 2009 05:46 PM

The first reaction the general public has with all of these stories is to get rid of the animal. Although the animal is directly responsible, the adults truly carry 100% of the responsibility.

Jonathan_Brady Jul 21, 2009 05:31 PM

Am I the only one that thinks that if the dog wanted to kill the baby, it would have?

Maybe I'm totally nuts, or stupid, or just trying to humanize a dog, but I think maybe it was being "motherly". Baby pups can take being picked up by the scruff of their necks because 1) they don't weigh much and 2) that's what nature intended. Human babies on the other hand were meant to be picked up in other ways. There are COUNTLESS cases of dogs "mothering" other animals. Even some males are very "maternal".

Just my thoughts...

Sad story Hopefully the dog doesn't pay with its life...

jb
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hognose15 Jul 21, 2009 05:50 PM

That is part of what I was getting at. The dog was acting like it would in nature. I don't believe it had any intent on harming the child. If it is a Hybrid as I said, it is not very far removed from wild. It should never have had the opportunity for immediate contact with the baby though.

Wirlwindboaz Jul 21, 2009 06:50 PM

I don't think it's likely that the dog was being "motherly".

The dog "ran" when it's owner realize it had the baby. He "chased" it about 200 yards into the woods.

Not everything that intends on killing, does it right away.

How many times have you seen a cat with a bird or mouse. They play with it for a while "before" they actually kill it.

Besides, the dog was a "male". In most breeds of dog... maybe all breeds. The male doesn't take "any" part in raising the pups.

I think this dog preceived the child as a "threat" to his happy home. It was on a mission to remove this threat.

Whether or not the dog would have actually killed the child... I can't say, since the father stepped in and tried to save the child.

Hopefully, the child will survive and this "animal encounter" will end on a happier note.

Joel_Thomas Jul 21, 2009 10:18 PM

I believe society as a whole needs to tune out when it concerns the amount of sensationalism the media is cashing big $$ on.

My heart sinks anytime that I see a tragedy involving a child no matter the circumstance...DAMN

I believe this Native American dog has the highest amount of wolf blood in it with out requiring special permits to own one (75%) I believe, so they changed the name from wolf hybrid so they can own one with out legal papers or to be able to obtain Home owners insurance.

This being the case and wolves living in a very detailed family structure, I would say either maternal or removal (killing) instincts played a role for certain and that would depend on what role in the "pack" that this animal thought his place was.

Bottom line irresponsible ownership of any animal is never going to give good results...we (Americans) have got to change this...I think that is a pipe dream though
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