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The first photo was taken last October within a week or so after I purchased this 08 "Kingsville" Red Bullsnake. He was about 18 inches then. Now, less than 10 months later, he is nearly five feet (second photo). He's a feisty one too...

DANG I HOPE MY PIG NORTHERN PINES GROW THAT FAST

By the time he arrived from the breeder, he was eating hoppers to small mice. In no time at all, he was eating medium and large mice and then graduated to rats. Now he downs two to three small/medium rats every week to 10 days (when he's not in pre-moult).

WELL I HOPE YOU POST A PIC OF THE FUTURE MONSTER WHEN HE IS AROUND THE 7 FOOT MARK. I LIKE HOW IT HAS LITTLE TO NO MARKINGS ON THE HEAD, VERY COOL!

that is a very fast growth rate!

With the baby bulls and pines that I have raised, I'd say that in a year with moderately heavy feeding they should be around 3-4 feet on average, but 18 in. to nearly 5 ft. in 10 months is quite impressive. He should grow up to be 6 footer easily!
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Take care,

Alex Pepper

CBB '07 1.1 Aspidites ramsayi--Woma Pythons (Don Hamper/Rare Earth Stock)
CBB '08 1.1 Bothrochilus boa--Bismarck Ringed Pythons (Tom Keogan Line High Contrast)
CBB '07 1.0 Heterodon simus--High Red Southern Hognose Snake (Tom Pinson Line Red)
CBB '07 1.1 Pituophis catenifer sayi--Marathon, Texas Out-crossed Stillwater Hypomelanistic Bull Snakes
CBB '08 1.1 Pituophis melanoleucus lodingi--Black Pine Snakes (John Ginter Stock)
CBB '06 & '08 1.1 Eublepharis macularius--Blazing Blizzard & Reverse Stripe Tangerine Albino Leopard Geckos "Blaze" & "Angie"
CBB '02 0.1 Hemitheconyx caudicinctus--Stiped African Fat-tailed Gecko "Smeagol"
CBB '03 0.1 Canis domesticus--Cocker Spaniel "Cupcake"
CBB '99 0.1 Canis domesticus--Yellow Labrador Retriever "Freckles"

Happy Herping!

Absolutely aweseome. Love the clean head...what a bull! Gonna start giving Red Bull to all my pits now. (very clever product placement there).

...I didn't even noctice notice the Red Bull. Yes, very clever!
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Take care,

Alex Pepper

CBB '07 1.1 Aspidites ramsayi--Woma Pythons (Don Hamper/Rare Earth Stock)
CBB '08 1.1 Bothrochilus boa--Bismarck Ringed Pythons (Tom Keogan Line High Contrast)
CBB '07 1.0 Heterodon simus--High Red Southern Hognose Snake (Tom Pinson Line Red)
CBB '07 1.1 Pituophis catenifer sayi--Marathon, Texas Out-crossed Stillwater Hypomelanistic Bull Snakes
CBB '08 1.1 Pituophis melanoleucus lodingi--Black Pine Snakes (John Ginter Stock)
CBB '06 & '08 1.1 Eublepharis macularius--Blazing Blizzard & Reverse Stripe Tangerine Albino Leopard Geckos "Blaze" & "Angie"
CBB '02 0.1 Hemitheconyx caudicinctus--Stiped African Fat-tailed Gecko "Smeagol"
CBB '03 0.1 Canis domesticus--Cocker Spaniel "Cupcake"
CBB '99 0.1 Canis domesticus--Yellow Labrador Retriever "Freckles"

Happy Herping!

Thanks!

Seemed fitting somehow. Much better mascot than some bovine but this is a Pit fan talking...

if you ate several rats, you'd wash em down with a red bull too.
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2 tham radix
1 Chicago Tham s. semifasciatus
2 elaphe vulpina
1 gray tiger salamander
4 Aphonopelma hentzi
1 G rosea
1 Haplo minax
1 Brachy angustum
1 Brachy sabulosum
1 Brachy vagans
1 Cent. hentzi scorp

The founder female was just over 7ft long so it does not surprise me a bit. I am generally too cheap to feed that much so I have not witnessed that kind of growth but no doubt this lineage does have the genetics to get massive!

Great looking snake even if not super red. I always feel a bit guilty when I see pics of Kingsville reds that are not super red. I have line bred them to the point that I think most of the offspring I produce grow up to get quite red (flowerpot red). I know that KJ has been perfecting the red bull lines as well -both mine (Kingsville TX locality) and the Crumbly non-locality lines- with some good results.

I held back a Kingsville red male last year that is about as red as any I have ever seen and he has the added beauty of really contrasty dark saddles which kingsville locality tends to lack. I am really looking forward to growing him up and breeding him.

Note the not so red male and somewhat red female with low contrast saddles shown below. These two are F3 snakes. I currently breed that female to one of her really red offspring and they come out of the egg looking great.

Thanks for the insight!

This snakes color ( a high orange) is very appealing to me. I'll provide some updated photos as the snake gets larger. Over time, we'll see where the top end size is for this individual.