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ONYX boa (New morph) .....Pictures

Mark_Krabbe Jul 24, 2009 08:42 AM

This new spectacular morph was first time proven last year by the Dutch breeder, Freek Nuyt.
I am lucky enough to have animals from the same line as he produced the first onyx boas from and I received the first litter from my female in april.
The litter consisted of 5 Super Onyx boas, 8 that i consider to be onyx boas, and 3 normals.

These animals are all pure honduras locality boas, and originates from the same line that produced the rare T plus honduras boas.

With a total of 4 pairings all indications tell us that this is a codominant gene.
All the gene carriers "regular Onyx boas" have strong abberencies, and so far only by pairing these together the black super form have been produced.

Super Onyx boa

Onyx boa

Thank you for looking

Mark Krabbe
Denmark
markrabbe@gmail.com

Replies (16)

boaphile Jul 24, 2009 08:55 AM

That is fantastic!!! I am pumped to see that puppy! Can you provide more info in the way of fresh baby pictures so we can see more of the specific history and results! Great great great stuff for the Boa world!!!
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Jeff Ronne Sr
The Boaphile
Director USARK

Originator of Boaphile Plastics
The Boaphile Boa Site

Treeserpent Jul 24, 2009 08:57 AM

Very cool! That's going to be an exciting project with boundless potential!

jsschrei Jul 24, 2009 09:30 AM

WOW, they are beautiful!
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ChadHorne Jul 24, 2009 10:26 AM

Very nice, great new project.
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Raveness_d Jul 24, 2009 12:34 PM

Just stunning...

I'm not normally a "morph" girl (except the Marrons), but a solid black boa is something I could definitely covet.
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~Danielle

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LarM Jul 24, 2009 12:51 PM

I believe I read about this on Freek Nuyts website last year.
I completely forgot about it until yesterday looking at that
website and fresh baby pics of his.
Another interesting Morph !

. . . Lar M
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Boas By Klevitz
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hognose15 Jul 24, 2009 01:52 PM

np

serpsel Jul 24, 2009 02:22 PM

That is very exciting. I will look forward to seeing those in the U.S. Congratulations
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Alex Tower
Serpentine Selections

boacraze Jul 25, 2009 05:05 AM

killer a all black boa without the goofy head shape like the super mott! looks as if it will be a flawless and re-produceable morph! incredible

amiemac9 Jul 25, 2009 07:28 AM

some belly shots of those guys/girls!!

Amie

boaphile Jul 25, 2009 09:17 AM

In case it isn't clear yet, the Onyx Boa morph was first produced last year by the Dutch breeder Freek Nuyt. This year another European named Mark Krabbe produced a litter of 16 babies of which 5 are SUper Onyx Boas, 8 are Onyx Boas and three normals. THere have been a total of 4 litters that have contained Super Onyx Boas produced so far. These are Honduran Boas from the same bloodline as the Honduran "T-Positives" that were imported to Europe several years ago. Not the first time that more than one morph has come from a single bloodline.

This is a very cool animal! We do not know anything yet about the health of these supers or if they do well or is they reproduce yet. We will find out soon enough I hope.

This is a visual het for Onyx Boa.

I do not have any Boas from this bloodline yet, but I would love to get some!

Larry Micklevitz, our resident Junior Historian, found this.

This is taken directly from Freek Nuyt's site:

born here last year, it's an albino...

Freek

These babys are F2 animals, the original wc parents came in in one of the last honduran shipments that entered europe, Sire was a Honduran T female was at the time a 66% ph, the litter had 9 babys 4 blacks 3 T and 2 hets.

Needles to say that after seeing these born i was blown away, i'll spare you the details of what excitement can do to you but i am sure you can form a picture of what went on...

After the babys shed i noticed that there was a difference in the black babys which became more noticeable over time as they grew older and had a few sheds gradually some of the babys started develloping an orange undertone on there flanks, the babys that did also had an bright orange clear belly with orange coloration extending well onto the chin, looking at the visual T in the litter you find the same belly color whereas the hets have a normal greyish belly.
After going over this time and time over again in trying to figure out what was going on with the few people that knew of there existense we all came to the conclusion that they very likely must be black T albinos from what we have seen until now, needless to say that more breeding needs to be done to exactly figure out what is going on genetically.

normal black

Black T

Black T belly

Freek


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Jeff Ronne Sr
The Boaphile
Director USARK

Originator of Boaphile Plastics
The Boaphile Boa Site

amiemac9 Jul 25, 2009 03:30 PM

I was curious how the all-over black on the dorsum would affect the normally outrageously orange belly that Hondurans are known for.

Great response!

Amie

Randall_Turner Jul 25, 2009 01:40 PM

I am curious to see if there is any common appearance/traits within the visuals, or are they fairly variable? The reason I ask is the one visual het pictured reminds me of some of the Central American motleys you see from time to time.
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Randall L Turner Jr.
Boas make the world go round.

Mark_Krabbe Jul 25, 2009 02:17 PM

as soon as possible, of both the supers and regular onyx.
The pattern on the gene carriers are very variable, with varying degree of striping.

Best regards

Mark

Randall_Turner Jul 25, 2009 03:19 PM

Thanks for the reply, I look forward to seeing the variety within the mutation.
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Randall L Turner Jr.
Boas make the world go round.

Mark_Krabbe Jul 25, 2009 02:20 PM

I will get more pictures of the animals soon as possible

Thanks

Mark

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